| Name |
Views and Comments | Date |
| Kate |
I know several people who suffer from Gallstones and a couple of them have had their gallbladders removed but have still suffered from gallstone attacks, which never seems to be able to be explained by doctors yet they keep saying surgery is the best option. I've done a cleanse and it helped me, my symptoms completely disappeared. Even if it's not gallstones being passed it certainly helps clean the liver out so would recommend it as preventative as pretty sure if we had evolved to a point of being able to live without our gallbladder we wouldn't still use them to produce bile. |
10/26/2009 |
| kisha |
can gall stone make u gain weight or make ur hair come uot |
5/17/2009 |
| g |
If this is true:
"I have not seen any actual chemical analysis of these crystals, but my guess would be a component of the apple juice or olive oil that crystallizes in the presence of stomach acid. "
Then why do people report that these stones are no longer presents after their 6th or 7th flush?
Seems a simple enough experiment to reproduce. |
5/13/2009 |
| ill boy |
i did a flush last night before reading this article i deffinately got some sort of reaction going on in my belly. woke up this morning and my doo doo doesnt contain any little green things. i am now also full of cold and have oily skin. i dont know what happened but im not gonna do it again. i cant beleive how much crap there is on the internet. |
2/25/2009 |
| ruben |
What you say makes a lot of sense, is just what I though when I heard about it. People like to belive there is something hided nobody told us that explain why our lives are not better. If that woud be true, It would have been used for years in medicine and would have a been of general knowledge in science. |
1/26/2009 |
| Now Pain Free |
It seems like Dr. Ron is a bit arogant and ignorant. Before commenting on cleanses, Dr. Ron should try one himself. The only reason for him to criticize cleanses is to ensure unnecessary surgeries continue to bring in cash for gallstone surgeons. Hell, I'd be peeved too if I went to college for 10 years and had over $200,000 in debt only to find out that a simple one night cleanse was more effective than surgery.
Here's my story:
I'm a 30 year old male school teacher with a BA, MA, and I'm working on EMT certification (for fun). I'm 6 feet tall and 170 pounds. I have always been very athletic and ran a 5:54 mile in July of 2008. So weight or activity are not an issue for me. I had shoulder pains from 2005-2008. I went to a chiropractor and get massage every other week and also strectch/do yoga/do pilates 2-3 times per week. I was looking up shoulder pain on the net and found a cleanse for the liver that is supposed to help with shoulder pain. Here's how the cleanse works:
FRIDAY Buy a 64 bottle of juice and drink juice mixed with water from morning until 6 at night (juice fast). At six o'clock take 1 tablespoon of epson salt with 8 ounces of water. At 8 take another tablespoon of epson salt with 8 ounces of water. Drink juice mixed with water to kill the aftertaste. You will poop all the junk out from these two laxatives. At 10 PM mix 4 ounces of fresh squeezed red grapefruit juice with 4 ounces of Olive Oil. (It really doesn't taste that bad.) Weigh yourself if you have a scale ( The first time I did this I weighed in at 172) and go directly to bed. Lie on your right side for twenty minutes then go to sleep.
SATURDAY When you wake up take another 1 tablespoon of Epson Salt, drink some juice and prepare to poop out the crap that was bugging your liver. The turds look like green erasers that are about 1 cm by 1 cm. You will crap on and off for the next two hours. I had about 200 turds overall the first time I did this cleanse and then less and less month after month. When you are done, weigh yourself. I weighed 167 after pooping out the green turds. I know that I did not lose 5 pounds worth of water in just 12 hours because I was drinking liquids the whole time. The turds vary in size and shape making it impossible for them to be the simple product of bile and olive oil. The cleanse must have removed some waste regardless of what Dr. Ron states. Do this once a month (you need to give your colon a rest) until you are pain free. It worked for me! |
1/10/2009 |
| Drs R. Crooks |
Do you make less money when somebody is healed with a cleanse instead of cutting their gall bladder out?
Maybe you are ignorant of natural healing.
My brother had gall stones that were removed with a cleanse. |
11/12/2008 |
| David Stoor |
Rubbish - I have passed stones with gallbladder flush - calcified ones at that and the ampule of vater does stretch to accomodate - it is designed to! Disinformation from the medical profession persists because we do not really need physicians. With the western sugar diet it is not surprising that so many suffer from complications with their digestive organs. Our bodies were not designed to digest such poor food of such low quality - look at what our diet was 10-20 thousand years ago and you will find the ideal diet! not processed wallmart food out of a packet with no nutritional value whatsoever - then there is the issue of GM - That is not what nature intended! genetic modification takes time and is a result of environment not lab experimentation! It is said one third of what we eat sustains us and the other two thirds keeps the medical profession fat. |
10/6/2008 |
| rose |
Like you, I didn't believe that this detox could work. However, as I was in chronic pain almost constantly and facing imminent surgary, I decided to take a chance on it. The detox was horrible but the result was amazing. I have been pain free now for two years and my gall bladder is intact. I have had friends that have had their gall bladders removed and still experience the same pain, so surgary is not necessarily the solution. This detox may defy logic as far as you are concerned, but if so many people have been helped by this detox then why not consider that there may be something in it. There was a time when doctors would say that all alternative medicine/practitioners were rubbish, but that is no longer the case. Open your mind to the possibility that this detox may help some people. |
10/4/2008 |
| NH |
BT Sarah, why could you not get surgery for a while? When they saw a small stone today in ultrasound they were going to cart me off to surgery almost immediately! |
7/28/2008 |
| NH |
OH gawwwwwwwwwwwwwd! But I'm fearful of this surgery! Its the dope they give you that scares me. |
7/28/2008 |
| M.hutchinson |
If flushs were a myth how come. Before i did the flush the doctor said i had gall stones and a case of jaundice. After the flust the gall bladder was empty and all the pain had gone and my energy levels had shot up. Why do others say this, and when the doctor took a sample of one of the gall stones and tested it it was made of bile? The doctor said it couldn't be true but it was. And the jaundice has gone along with the high levels recorded in my lft. Explain that? I think it shows but the doctors don't want show there is a easy way to get rid of gall stones rather than a operation that would pay their wages! |
6/23/2008 |
| B T |
Biased and opioniated |
5/17/2008 |
| Sarah |
I have done two different kinds of gallstone flushes, and found each to produce different results.
By the way, the vitriol from some who disagree with the writer doesn't help your cause. Though inclined towards natural remedies myself, you make naturalists look ridiculous by representing them in such a hateful way.
Hopefully I can provide some info that would help you analyze flushes vs. surgery and you can provide some feedback. Either way, I appreciate your posting an article.
In my first flush, I ate a low-fat breakfast, messed up by eating a somewhat fatty lunch, then fasted the rest of the day. I took epsom salts at specified times, then before lying down I took a mixture of olive oil and grapefruit juice. The result of this cleanse was approx. 1/4 cup of various sized masses of the colors green, tan, and off-white. They were somewhat speckled and shaped like pebbles. I was mildly uncomfortable with a little nausea in the middle of the night and suffered some moderate rectal discomfort from the
I had heard that you were supposed to do the cleanse multiple times, so I decided to try a different style of cleanse. I stopped eating after noon and stopped fluids after 6pm. Starting at 7, I laid down and every 15 minutes took an 1/8 c of fresh-squeezed lemon juice and 1/4 c olive oil until I had consumed 1 c of the juice and 2 c of the oil.
This cleanse made me absolutely ill with some of the worst stomach pain I have ever experienced. (Before you write me off as an idiot for trying it, please consider that I like experimenting on myself, and I cannot get gallbladder surgery for awhile anyway, so I was of course willing to try something that I hadn't found reports of anyone dying of.) I examined the green masses that were flushed out, and noticed that they looked markedly different from the stones I had flushed out the first time, and a lot like the green masses some people purport as gallstones on the internet, and very unlike the masses I had passed with the first cleanse. These looked a lot like coagulated lemon juice and olive oil. A crush test with a spoon made them look even more so the same. But, as I do not own my own laboratory in which I could test the contents of the green masses, I am not going to say for sure what they were.
I tried the first cleanse again last night (epsom salts, grapefruit juice, and olive oil) and I am not sure what to think this time around. I definitely felt my gallbladder spasming, and I definitely felt a sensation that felt like objects popping out of the gallbladder and traveling down tubes under my right ribcage. The cleanse claims that this process is painless because the salts cause the tubes to dilate. The masses that were passed looked like the green ones from the first time, but I did not pass any tan or off-white ones.
I received the recipe for the first/third cleanse from a woman who claimed that she had had severe gall bladder attacks until she did this cleanse just once and has suffered no more symptoms since.
So my questions are:
Could the mix have created stones of various colors and types the first time? Also, why does the olive oil not cause a massive gallbladder attack like most fatty foods otherwise would, unless the ducts are dilated? and What did people do to treat bilious colic before surgery became an option? Why would the "cleanse" done the third time in the same way as the first not produce the same variety of masses as the first, and instead produce just green ones? I am earnestly searching for a way to avoid having my gallbladder removed (as I cannot at this time, and kind of like my organs). But I also don't really want to suffer gallbladder attacks for the rest of my life. I'd love your input on my comments. |
5/3/2008 |
| pellet boy |
just did the cleanse today and got about 75-100 pellets about the size of peas or larger... has anyone considered the possibility that the "stones" flushed during a cleanse are made by the ingesting of olive oil, epsom salts and lemon juice ?? think about it?? |
5/1/2008 |
| clare |
good advice. its easy to be lured in by the promise of a non-surgical approach to gall bladder problems. Being a nurse i was somewhat sceptical about the claims of flushing your gall bladder out. i guess i better see the doctor! thanks |
4/26/2008 |
| Dallas |
Natalie,
If you've had an ultrasound that clearly shows stones then why don't you simply do the flush and then go for another ultrasound and see for yourself? I would be confused too, but I'd rather take my own health into my hands and try something, not wait for a doctor to remove an organ, which IS necessary. |
4/4/2008 |
| Tanya Wilson |
i think everything is way too scary, and im only 19! i got diognosed 3 days before my 19th birthday. is it common in younger females? |
3/13/2008 |
| Boris |
I am very glad I came across your article. I just had an episode, spending 3 days in hospital with what turned out to be a gallstone blocking my bile duct. The stone was removed by a simple ERCP procedure and I am back home. Reading about the cleansing, it is very suspicious that people claim flushing 500, 800 and even 1300 gallstones during these procedures! Some of them size of a prune?! Come on! Face it - it makes no logic at all!!!! If you have so many stones you have a very serious problem and it is very unlikely that you'd survive the pain this would cause. By the way I have seen the gallstone and it doesn't look anything like the ones on various Web sites dedicated to cleansing (clusters of we know what). The article and explanation by Dr. Ron makes absolute common sense which many of us forgot to use. If you really believe you can pass a gallstone size of a dime, or hundred of them painlessly - think again ;). |
2/5/2008 |
| Steve |
The writer hasn't done his homework! The liver is very complex and honest doctors will admit they know very little about it. I have performed the liver flush three times and flushed over 1300 stones! they were gallstones, believe you me! Some were over an inch in diameter, many the size of cherries. They all passed painlessly as the epsom salts relax the ducts. |
2/4/2008 |
| john townsend |
You sir are full of it. I've done the gallstone cleanse twice and eliminated dozens of stones each time. Just another doctor trying to preserve the surgical option by removing something that nature intended our bodies to have. I had gone to the emergency room twice before I was diagnosed with pancreatitis. Since I don't drink alcohol, the other option was gallstones. After passing these gallstones the second time, I went in for an ultra sound and guess what, no gallstones. So you sir are full if it. |
10/17/2007 |
| Becca |
first of all, gallstones don't just pass through the "pencil led sized duct" and second of all....an operations doesn't keep gallstones from returning. So good try...but people are smarter than that....and know if it's written by a doctor, money is his main concern today...not the "hypocrit oath" as it should be called to day.
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10/4/2007 |
| mandy |
I'm glad I came across the article I was nearly tempted to try one of the flushes, but now I have changed my mind, after all if this was proven to work I know for sure doctors would be urging people to try it before surgery. I afree that what these people are probably passing is a mixture of the oil and apple juice. I also wouldn't want to risk a stone being caught in my tube, thank you very much for the information. I shall put up with my attacks until my operation date. |
5/22/2007 |
| Natalie Joseph |
I am so very confuse. I do not know who to believe you or the people who are saying I can use home remedies. I have an over producing thyroid and gallstones. I am in a lot of pain but surgery is not an option at this time because my thyroid levels are very high. So are you saying that there is nothing I can do at this time? That does not help me. |
3/31/2007 |