Child abuse 'involved 1,200 American priests'

Sexual abuse by Roman Catholic priests in the United States is even more common than was initially believed, according to a new investigation.
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jim MD your crazy 9/4/2006
emorax Those priests are nothing but a waist of watter, food & air to keep on this planet. They are worse than murderers because they kill the child's soul. TO HELL WITH THEME, AND ALL THE PEOPLE LIKE THEM. Go see the movie "Les voleurs d'enfances" and you'l understand my point of view. 11/25/2005
facttalk " You must slience everything in Convitto. We’ll finish your family if you speak out. We priests are everywhere in the world." 10/19/2005
insiders "We treated the priests differently according to their Congregation’s CONTRIBUTION TO US. For example, the priest from Finland is superior to all the other priests in here because his congregation finances the source of our wine." Father Luke explained calmly. 10/9/2005
me Do you know those priests love to joke on YOUR CONFESSIONS among themselves or when they flirting with women?

That is what those priests( mentioned above) love to do.


9/27/2005
notmoreafool NOT EVEN THE DINING ROOM! 9/22/2005
notmoreafool The new pictures in ITS WEBSITE mostly about the priests and meals.

Wow IT SOUNDS that they have such simple food during their routine meals...

It is one of the strategies for them to finish the scandals.

Nice arrangement.
It is really SIMPLE LIFE!
Opps, that is NOT EVEN THE DINING ROOM!

9/22/2005
thetruefact Fr. Nelson, an African priest, resides in Convitto S. Tommasso, loves to hunt for the tourists ( in a tricky approach) to have fun lust with him. He loves to call to his Sisters’ and Fathers’ gangs to share his sex experience…..

Ring , ring , ring….
The sisters said, “Fr. Nelson, when are you coming to see me. Our church and sisters need you.”
Fr. Nelson replied with excitement, “I almost got my target tonight. I will get more sex experience and come to have fun with you….Patient… Patient…”
Then they chatted with laughter for almost half hours for how to make fun sex issue together….

Fr. Nelson then kept calling his Convitto friends to share his joy and experience of how to hunt a target and to seek advice which hotel in Rome is safe, secret, and nice…

They laughed and laughed on their phone conversation regarding to the might happen sex issue with his targeted tourist.

“I will give you pleasure. I will make you happy in bed.” Expressed every of his word with his unbeatable facial and body expression of his sex skill. This is Fr. Nelson’s routine dialogue to his targeted victims…

9/22/2005
afewgoodman Sometimes ago, there was a visitor who worked for the ambassador of a European nation. The woman is very close to the Ambassador and so treated as a VIP visitor. The woman is physical disability â€" she can’t talk properly.

The priests were very kind and gentle to this woman and took good care of her in front of her. Right after she left the dinning table, another story begun again - the loud gossip started from Father Luke and Father Paul (the top management of Convitto San Tommasso).

Father Luke, “This woman is unpleasing to my sight. She is so ugly especially when she talks and eats, her saliva run out from her mouth like a waterfall. Unbearable! ” then He laughed loudly and continued, “Paul, how can you so patient sit so close to her?”
Father Paul answered, “Well, I feel unbearable too. Don’t you see I seldom drink and eat even such good wine and food in front of me?” Paul made an unhappy face and said, “We have to please her. So I do a little scarify for our Congregation.”
Father Luke answered, “This ugly woman just so clever. She uses her disability - went to meet the Ambassador and immediately receives this position.”
The Canadian lay man reply, “Yeap, ugly but clever woman! I still need to bring her along for another two days. Bad luck!” The American priest laughed and said, “at least you have a woman openly!” Laughed all the priests.

Then all priests go on enjoying their good wines and good foods as usual.....

Reporters, researchers, go inside this Vatican university, then you will find out more truth. The truth always there even the authorities try to keep silence and cover up...

People, before you donnate your money, you should think twice .....

9/13/2005
Father Father Luke begun :This woman is unpleasing to my sight. She is extremely ugly especially when she talks and eats. Her saliva run out of her mouth like waterfall. UNBEARABLE!
He laughed loudly and continued : Paul, how can you be so patient sit so close to her?

9/13/2005
Father The priests were very kind and gentle to the woman and took very good care of her IN FRONT OF HER. Right after she left the dinner table, another story begun again - the loud gossip started from Father Luke, Father Paul, and the two laymen ...

9/13/2005
Father Sometimes ago, there was a woman who worked for the Ambassador of a European nation came to visit Convitto San Tommasso. She was treated as a VIP Guest because of she is very closed to the Ambassador. The woman is disability. She can not talk properly.
9/13/2005
Father sick priest! 9/13/2005
nocomment! Between 1995 and 1999, 21 of the 5,600 Catholic priests in England and Wales were convicted of offenses against children. "Our hope is that this report will help to bring about a culture of vigilance where every single adult member of the church consciously and proactively takes responsibility for creating a safe environment for children and young people," the report said.

8/13/2005
Nicole child abuse should never happen..if you are going to abuse your kids, then dont have kids...and if you're going to be a priest and be involved with kids...dont rape rape them....its common sense... 8/12/2005
jailthem May 23, 2004
On Bad Priests
Here's a book review of a book that looks pretty interesting: Fallen Order by Karen Liebreich.

Pope John Paul II has kept noticeably quiet on the subject of Catholic priests who sexually abuse children. But in 2002, after high-profile cases in Europe and the United States, he was moved to acknowledge the problem - briefly.
Paragraph 38 of his annual Holy Thursday letter alluded to priests who succumb to "the most grievous forms of the mysterium iniquitatis [mystery of evil] at work in the world". Such behaviour puts other priests in a bad light, said the Pope, without mentioning what it does to the victims.

Fallen Order focuses on sexual abuse within a religious order in 17th-century Italy, and the attempts to cover it up. The book invites us to draw comparisons across the centuries, and it is infuriating to see how little the rhetoric of the Catholic Church has changed in these matters. Its aim can still seem to be to make abuse less terrible by couching it in euphemisms, especially Latin ones, then attributing it to outside forces, rather than to the criminal behaviour of a responsible adult.


Seems like the sexual aspect of the order's evil misdeeds was only one dimension of their problems, but while the book may be sensationalizing things to focus on it, it is timely that we can compare the Church's attitude to this sort of thing over the centuries. It's frustratingly similar now to what it was like back then.



8/7/2005
a father Those priests in that places enjoy FEAST every meals by using people donation money.

I am so sick of their behavior. I am so sick of that way of cheating.
8/7/2005
davidv12 REFERRING TO THE CONVITTO SAN TOMMASSO ISSUE POSTED IN HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD MORE FACTS :

Father Luke also teamed up with the two laymen and a few bad priests in Convitto resident used the extremely dirty tricks to cheat at an innocent mother and daughter for all their cash carried to travel in Rome and her very expensive marriage ring and more...
The innocent woman's marriage ring now is the possession of Father Luke and is still keeping in his room in Convitto resident.

Father Luke likes to bring this ring out to show us how wealthy and powerful he is.

Father Luke loves this ring since his first sight of it and decided to do whatever to steal and cheat this ring for his own collection. The two laymen and the bad priests who want to pleased Father Luke for keeping their seats in Rome organized a very sophisticated plan together to cheat this ring from this innocent woman.

8/3/2005
dayogreen317 As the molestations continue and amidst the ongoing scandal, the smoke belched from the rooftop and bells rang out as Cardinal Ratzinger was elected the new pope. All during the conclave Western news venues were hijacked as when OJ Simpson was on trial. Senseless news updates on the conclave and papal topics took over talk radio. Everyone in the West was subject to the constant stream of papalist drivel and live video feeds.
As the 1960's American sitcom character, Gomer Pyle used to say, "surprise, surprise", it's Cardinal Ratzinger. Is anyone in the West that stupid to be shocked that Ratzinger the number One red capped minion of John Paul II is now Pope Benedict XVI? The Vatican is a political and business organization that operates on a good ole boy tradition. The pope is the CEO and all the red capped minions are the board of directors.

News reports are now filled with senseless discussions about the popes representing some sort of truth. They even use the term orthodox and orthodoxy regarding Ratzinger. I couldn't stop laughing. What a paradox, a heterodox papalist referred to as orthodox. In actuality Ratzinger or now Benedict XVI promises to be a defender of modern heretical Roman doctrine. What kind of truths are these Western reporters talking about? There is not one thing in Roman Catholicism that has not evolved, changed, been altered, revised, rewritten, readapted or adulterated. Simply put in the so-called Roman Church today there is absolutely nothing, not one thing left intact of the ancient Christian church in it's pure, original and ancient form. Is this truth? From my Orthodox Christian perspective all of the popes after 1054 AD have been heretics. The papacy is the protector of all modern papal heresy. Again, Western news reports are now talking about the truths taught by John Paul II and how Benedict XVI also wants to defend truth. I am utterly bewildered as I cannot think of anything that is true about Roman Catholicism. It is now a heterodox secular organization that calls itself a church, holds fast to its cacophony of heresies and uses all measures to protect and sweep under the carpet its sub-culture of gay pedophile priests hoping that people will just forget about it.

On January 25, 2005 the Associated Press, (AP) reported,. "A long-desired trip by Pope John Paul II to Russia could only occur if the Vatican renounces efforts to expand Rome-affiliated churches in traditional Christian Orthodox areas, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church said. The condition set by Patriarch Alexy II - contained Tuesday in a reply to questions from The Associated Press - reinforces previous statements and suggests Russian Orthodox leaders have not been swayed by recent Vatican overtures that have included the return of an important icon and the relics of two Orthodox saints". I will address this later!

Meanwhile in the West news reports still circulate about child molestations, court cases and multi million dollar out of court settlements. The Los Angeles Diocese being one of the largest. Last summer the first American Roman Catholic bishop was indicted, the former head of the Springfield, MA, Diocese, Bishop Thomas Dupre. Also last summer was bishop, Kurt Krenn resigning after being blamed for the Austrian Seminary Child Porn Scandal and of course John Paul II giving Boston's despicable Cardinal Law a position of honor in Rome.

Yes the secularized Western news media feeds on sensational news. As it feeds on papal news today, tomorrow it will again denigrate anything it considers even remotely Christian. Isolated cases of child abuse occur in each and every segment of society. What is truly shocking is the massive scale at which this phenomenon occurs in the Roman Catholic Church. These are not simply isolated cases, but a thriving and apparently protected sub-culture within the very walls of the Vatican. Just type into the Google search engine the phrase, "Roman Catholic Sex Abuse" and you will find over 600,000 hits that cover massive cases of pedophilia at the hands of Roman Catholic priests world wide.

In the West the Roman Catholic Church assumes a position of mastery over all of Christendom. An alcoholic never thinks they have a problem with alcohol. A gambler thinks there is nothing wrong with what he-s doing. If others attempt to point out that a problem exists they will certainly encounter a strong resistance. This same principle needs to be kept in mind when speaking to any Roman Catholic apologist. The apologist will immediately attempt to turn the spotlight off of the burning issue of their severe pedophilia problem by turning the tables onto you. Much the way a defense attorney blames the rape victim instead of his client the accused rapist. The papalist never wants to blame the precious popes as they are indoctrinated in CCD by the age of 10 that the popes are all brought to power on earth by Christ Himself whom perches them on a lofty golden papal throne. Of course I may sound ridiculous, but the brainwashing amounts to this. Roman Catholicism is nothing short of the largest acceptable cult on planet earth. As an Orthodox Christian the papacy and the Rev. Moon have a lot in common.

This is not just about Cardinal Ratzinger becoming Pope Benedict XVI or the severe sub-culture of child molestation within the Roman Catholic Church. It is about the evil and corruption inherent in a so-called church whose jurisdictional bishop proudly proclaims himself the Vicar of Christ. Regardless, any serious student of history will research countless examples of papal abuse and corruption throughout the centuries. The point is not whether the Bishops of Rome have been corrupt, surely we know this as a fact. We are also sure that all churches that are considered in the West to be Christian have had more than their fair share of impious clerics and rogues. Yet, the corruptions of the office of the so-called "Vicar of Christ" whom the popes claim to be, the Supreme Pontiff and the teacher of the unbroken faith are all the more glaring and unbelievable because of these exalted and boastful claims.

Pope Benedixt XVI will have his hands full with all the difficult daily chores of the papacy. Let's face it, the covert defense and protection of child predator priests and their cover-it-all-up bishops is indeed hard work. So is putting out the proper media spin for public consumption. The Vatican needs Benedict XVI as a defender of its heterodox heresies as the so-called Roman Church is disintegrating into even more factions. The real problem is that it ceased long ago to be a canonical church. Today it is a secular organization with heretical teachings and false traditions. A secular organization that is in utter chaos. Marxist liberationists, the secular humanistic Jesuits, traditionalists, feminists, the European liberal theologians, New Age charismatic-catholics, Wiccan nuns, gay priests, lesbian nuns and other nuns that desire to be priests, it's pedophile subculture along with the 74,990 other rebellious tribes of Rome that are too numerous to mention here. The laity consists of a wide range of nominal believers in various states of rebellion against Rome and their own papacy.

Roman Catholic's in America are still numbed by the constant thoughts about clergy molestations that still permeate the media venues. Most of these ordinary Catholics simply write these stories off and rationalize it all away. They think that this happens in other Christian Churches too, THEY just haven't got caught yet! Again, this may occur from time to time elsewhere in sporadic cases, never in the extreme severity as in the Roman Catholic Church. Even now that John Paul is dead and buried and even now with Ratzinger as the new pope, even now after knowing all the facts, these papalists will still blindly talk about how good, great and holy John Paul II was and how Benedict will be a defender of some sort of papalist truth! LOL

Back to the pedophilia for a moment:

When these papalist pedophile clergy have been exposed by the US Judicial system it is how these predators have been dealt with by their Roman Catholic bishops that gives one the discernment that this problem is indeed a pervasive sub-culture tolerated and inherent within the very walls of the Vatican and the so-called Roman Church. It appears that this system has been held together by the last pope and will continue to be held together by Benedict XVI. The Vatican's red capped bishops tow the line to keep the secret pervert society alive and well. Think about it, John Paul II openly talked about how the clergy pedophilia problem caused him great pain. This came out of one side of his mouth, yet he kept the secret pervert society intact. Is this holy? Look at Boston's despicable Cardinal Law and his new position given to him by Pope John Paul II. A position of honor in Rome. Had he been an Orthodox bishop, he and all his sick pedophile predator clergy would have been officially defrocked by the Holy Synod, turned over by the Holy Synod's Bishops to the government for prosecution and on the way severally beaten by an angry Russian Orthodox populace. Certainly not given a position of honor in an Orthodox patriarchate.

At the local parish level, the Roman Catholic mass collections have been going into the "defense funds" for the sexed up child predator priests whom still vigorously fight the victims. Chicago Newspapers last week spoke about fund raising dinners where the wealthy donated millions to the local Archdiocese that has been put in the red by out of court settlements. This is like having a Fortune 500 fund raising event for Michael "Jacko" Jackson so he can pay his lawyers and go back to Neverland to sleep with (molest) more little boys. The papalist parishioners and wealthy Catholic contributers know this is true but continue to shell out the money in the collection baskets that end up going for priest predator defense lawyers. Why? I will answer, they are brainwashed cult followers of the papacy that's why. These defense attorneys, paid out of the collection box, make the victims suffer even more trauma to benefit the pedophiles. These emotionally shell shocked and traumatized people are forced to remember more and more of the painful anguish in order to exonerate a pedophile predator and put him back into another parish where he can commit more sodomy against children. The memories of the terror inflicted upon these poor people at the trusting and tender age of eight or ten by some gay predator priest, whom had seduced them some twenty years earlier with some cheap bottle of altar Chianti. All of this to exonerate a known pedophile predator. How holy is this?

Chaos and controversy continues to swirl around Rome's heretical and desacralized altars, but this fact has never stopped the Vatican. The last pope and his red capped minions, including Ratzinger, spent each and every waking moment trying to invent more insidious, deceitful and evil schemes to get inside Russia to convert Orthodox Russians unto the errors and heresies of papalism.

The facts about the modern papacy remain: there is not one trace, not one shred, nor one hint, nor single germ of evidence in antiquity that can prove Rome's untenable claims that her authority has existed since the beginning. These claims were founded upon pseudo documents and untenable arguments attempting to imply her position always existed. The Donation of Constantine- and the Isidorian decretals- are but two of the most famous forgeries. True, Rome now accepts the falsity of the Donation and these other pseudo documents but she does not renounce any of the authority she wrongly claimed as a result of them. Due to this fact Rome's so called unchanging tradition is nothing more than a poorly written fairy tale

As history plainly bears witness, the four Holy Orthodox Sees of the East were never subject to the Roman bishop, nor did they ever submit themselves to him. To Rome's intense consternation the Orthodox Church continues to preserve the Ancient unadulterated Truths in all things AND If Christ is not about "Truth in ALL Things" then what is He about?

John Paul II and his Orthodox hating cabal, including Ratzinger, spent all the years of his papacy "obsessed with converting the Russians", not to Christ, but unto the errors of the heretical papacy. John Paul II hop-scotched all around the former Soviet Union in his pope-mobile in the hope that he would somehow end up on a papal heresy crusade inside Holy Orthodox Russia.

Despite the protests of Patriarch Alexei II, John Paul II held his desacralized MTV style Jumbotron heresy mass in the Ukraine, much to the consternation of the local Orthodox populace. This pope went to Greece where absolutely nobody wanted him or any of his heresies. Of course the secular butt kissing Greek politicians did not want to offend their Western counterparts so they allowed him a visit to Orthodox Greece. The monks and ordinary people there held signs written in Greek saying, "Heretic Go Home". John Paul then went on to Bulgaria where again butt kissing Western leaning politicians could not say no. Again, none of the local Orthodox people wanted him. Even the Bulgarian Orthodox patriarch urged John Paul to abandon his heresies and return to the ancient condition of things and the "True Fold", of Christ's Holy Orthodox Catholic Church.

John Paul and his red capped minions then tried another deceitful scheme. They tried to pass off a fake of the holy Kazan icon so this pope could fly into Kazan airport and then sneak his way into Orthodox Russia. This is the papal fake referred to by the AP writer in the first paragraph. A last ditch attempt was then made. John Paul II wanted to hand deliver this fake to Patriarch Alexei II. Our Holy Father Alexei said that the pope was not needed, nor wanted and that he should stay home. Two years ago the Vatican even tried to manipulate the new Georgian government to get the pope an audience inside Orthodox Georgia. That planned heresy crusade also never got off the ground.

The last insidious Vatican ploy:

Late in 2004 John Paul decided to return the relics of the Orthodox Saint's John Chrysostom and Gregory Nazianzen that had been stolen from Constantinople's Church of Hagia Sophia in the sack of 1204 AD by Roman Catholic Crusaders. These relics stolen by papal thieves have been kept in St. Peter's Basilica as war booty for 800 years.

John Paul II returned these precious Orthodox relics stolen by papal thieves 800 years earlier to Orthodox Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople on the Feast Day of St. Andrew 2004. Of course there was a price, another scheme. John Paul II expected that by this gesture all would be forgiven. By returning a tiny fragment of what the papacy had stolen during the evil Crusades this pope expected Bartholomew to use his influence with Russian Orthodox Patriarch Alexei II to get John Paul II an audience inside Russia. This guy simply could not take no for an answer. Imagine if he had had just one eighth this much drive to rid his church of pedophile predators. This return of Orthodox relics is the other event referred to by the AP writer from the first paragraph.

Simply put, John Paul II's life long dream was not to rid his so-called church of pedophiles but to ride his pope mobile inside Russia on a mission to convert the Russians unto the errors and heresies of the papacy. This pope never spoke about returning the relics of the beloved Orthodox bishop, St. Nicholas of Myra, nor the shroud of Turin, which many prominent Orthodox scholars believe is the Mandylion of Edessa, spoken of in Holy Scripture, also on the manifest of Hagia Sophia that went missing during the 4th Crusade. Nor, most importantly did he ever speak about renouncing the cacophony of heresies and errors created by the papacy after 1054 AD. This arrogant pope expected the Orthodox Church and it's faithful to accept and submit themselves to Rome and her myriad of heretical innovations. Accept her trivialized and adulterated worship, accept her Fatima and Lourdes fables, accept all of the other Marion fairy tales and the multitude of mindless heresies and finally to accept a proud, heretical and boastful papacy as the so-called, Vicar of Christ. sic

Living in the West all I have ever heard was how good John Paul II was and all the good and holy things that he did. Now I am hearing that he was the greatest pope in history and they want to name him "Pope John Paul the Great" and make him some saint. What does any of this senseless drivel really mean?

Let's actually view the facts!

The fact is that this now dead pope never renounced the evil work of the insidious "uniat church" in the Ukraine and elsewhere. He upheld the canonized devil, "Josaphat the Malevolent" He established papal dioceses inside Russia where no followers of his lies and heresies exist. To further irritate the Moscow Patriarchate this pope set up another papal diocese inside Kazakhstan where there are less than 100 Roman Catholics of Germanic and Polish origin. Finally, he never renounced any of the innovations, lies and heresies introduced after the Roman Patriarchate left the One True Orthodox Catholic Church in 1054 AD. Remember that the Vatican has a vested interest in its many lies, it's cacophony of heresies, its many fairy tales and all of its fables.

This dead pope canonized someone whom we (Orthodox) would have anathematized. "If in coming to face with God we accept Him in our lives, then we are converting. We become a better Hindu, a better Muslim, a better whatever we are...What God is in your mind you must accept" (from Mother Teresa: Her people and her work by Desmond Doig, Harper and Row, NY p. 156 )

Had Mother Teresa lived during the Seven Holy Ecumenical Synods and had made the above statement before the assembly of bishops, for all in attendance to hear and to fully comprehend her profound heretical words. She would have been anathematized and excommunicated as a heretic, certainly not venerated after her death as a saint. I can only imagine the consternation of St. Athanasios, St. Basil, St. Gregory or especially St. Nicholas of Myra. St. Nicholas would have had a type-A tantrum upon hearing her words of heresy.

So what exactly was so good and so holy about this now dead pope? What was so great about him? Please tell me. What did he do besides preside over a heterodox secular institution that calls itself a church and which holds fast to its many heresies? A so-called church that keeps intact and protects its sub-culture of gay pedophiles and sexed up perverts. A so-called church that pays out hundreds of millions of US dollars in restitution to victims, spends tens of millions to fight victims, but still keeps intact the "secret pervert society" of gay pedophile predator priests.

John Paul II issued an invasive encyclical "Humanae Vitae" worded in lurid and explicit detail instructing married Roman Catholics what they "can and cannot do" in the privacy of their own marital bedrooms. As a married Roman Catholic you must keep a mental checklist about what parts your spouse actually touched and for what reasons, as marital sex is only to produce children. You cannot use a condom with your wife, she cannot take a pill. Oral sex is a strict taboo between husband and wife, says this heretics encyclical. Remember, you are only supposed to have sex to produce children, all other sexual body contact between husband and wife is strictly taboo says this pope. Don't you find this even in the slightest way a little bit bizarre? You are given an instruction booklet of what to do and what not to do with your own spouse behind the sacred door of your own marital bedroom but there is no encyclical condemning clergy pedophilia.

If John Paul was as holy as people say he was why didn't he enter the rectory bedrooms of his own queer priests and all the "sweep it under the rug" bishops that reported directly to him? Isn't this sick and duplicitious? In an encyclical this dead pope wanted to officially warn YOU that you will burn in Hell for having oral sex with your own spouse as this is strictly taboo but says absolutely nothing in any encyclical about all his queer priests that are aroused by the anuses and mouths of little 8 year old boys and whom sexually abuse children. Sorry to be so blunt, but it was necessary to shock you to put a point across. Nor did this dead pope ever officially ask for the resignation of any bishop involved in covering up these horrific crimes. Again, in the case of Boston's despicable Cardinal Law, John Paul II actually gave him a position of honor in Rome. Was this action holy?

Now think about it. I mean really think about it. What good and truly holy thing did this dead heretic pope actually do? What good will this new heretic Pope Benedict XVI do? Despite all the chaos and controversy and despicable evil that lurks inside the walls of the Vatican, the papacy and his red capped minions make converting the Russians to papalism, "Numero Uno" on the Vatican agenda while they hope you forget about the pedophilia.

My Roman Catholic friends remind me about the so-called 1917 apparition at Fatima. I have read much on this topic. What I understand about this delusion is that it calls upon "Russians to convert". This conversion has absolutely nothing to do with conversion to Christ, but rather it's an Orthodox conversion to papalism which Rome seeks. According to the fables of Fatima, Orthodox Russians in the Motherland and in diaspora are supposed to consecrate themselves to the Virgin Mary "in union with the papacy" as the evil delusion requested otherwise "various nations will be annihilated".

I find the delusions of Fatima absolutely ludicrous and nothing short of pure evil. If this were really the Mother of God giving messages about the future, why wouldn't she say anything at all about the massive cases of papalist pedophilia. If I can type into Google, "Roman Catholic Sex Abuse" and I can get over 600,000 hits about this why wouldn't the Mother of God say something, anything about this? Especially when her Son warns us of His special wrath in connection with harming a child. No, this is not the Mother of God but an evil delusion. Maybe it is is the demonic Latin goddess Vesta? Who knows. Besides, why should I, or why would I ever want to be, "in union with the heretical papacy" on anything as the so-called apparition requested? Why should I consecrate myself to the Virgin Mary as the pope requested? Why do I need to be in union with, subject to, or in any way connected to the excessive and boastful pride of the papacy and above all the many heresies of the roman pontiff? It is unthinkable that the Virgin Mary I know as the Theotokos would ever want me or any other Orthodox Christian to be in union with the heretical papacy. For Roman Catholics to state that the blessed lips of the Mother of God said such things is an evil abomination. That if we Orthodox Russians do not submit to her request "various nations will be annihilated" is obviously brainwashed by evil as these words are that of a malevolent supernatural creature from the lake of fire below, certainly not from the Mother of God.

There are very few places in the Gospels where it is recorded that the Mother of God spoke, but each one of them is highly significant. One could spend a life-time meditating on her sayings and never exhaust their meaning. Otherwise she is totally silent in order that her Son, the Word, may speak. Nothing can ever surpass the holy Virgin's two sublime titles: her own choice Handmaid of the Lord, and that which the Church has given her Theotokos-Gk., Mother of God. Neither can anything of greater importance be added to her last recorded statement, which remains an eternally true, relevant and universal message,

"Whatsoever He saith unto you, do it."

Roman Catholics were never taught that "Mariology" and consecration to the Mother of God began in the Orthodox East at the Council of Ephesus and was brought to bear on the West on an Eastern initiative. In simpler terms Orthodox Christians were consecrated to the Holy Virgin ( Theotokos ) long before anyone within Rome's jurisdiction ever was. This is long before Rome made her into a goddess and invented marian fairytales.. This is why Russians refer to their Homeland as "The Motherland". As this land was long, long ago consecrated to the Orthodox Bogoroditsa- Rus (Theotokos-Gk.) Mother of God.

Towards that end, monasticism and the veneration of the Saints and Holy relics was also brought to bear on the West on an Orthodox Eastern initiative. Do not forget that during the first three centuries the Liturgy in Rome was sung in Greek. The origin of the Roman Catholic rosary comes from the much older "prayer rope" used in the East by the Orthodox to pray the "Jesus Prayer" of St. John Klimakos of the Holy Mountain (Sinai). All does not come from Rome my friends, as practically nothing Christian does. Christianity was born in the East and will forever remain an Eastern religion. Rome is the center of the universe only in her proud, heretical and boastful mind.

Adding insult to injury, Russia is now filled with vast evils brought from the de-sacralized Western spiritual vacuum that the papacy and his so-called church represents. The Increase in crime, AIDS, pornography, prostitution and even the increased rate of abortion emanate from all the filth and trash that has been imported into Russia from the de-sacralized spiritual vacuum of the West.

Roman Catholic apologists have always, with a purpose, tried to reduce the immense differences between papalism and Orthodoxy to a few historical and cultural misunderstandings that belong to another time and place. The fact remains - since 1054 a cacophony of errors and heretical innovations have been introduced by Rome, one heaped upon another. These are neither cultural nor historical misunderstandings, but nothing less than sheer heresy.

Mincing some of Frank Schaeffer's words with my own I shall say, the so-called Roman church today is not the one that separated from Orthodoxy in 1054 over the issue of papal monarchism, as well as the pope's authority to add a new and heretical doctrine to the Nicene Creed. Even Western Christians of 1054 would not recognize their heretical and adulterated church today. Ironically, they would feel more at home in the Orthodox Church than their own, particularly when it comes to worship. This is because Orthodoxy, despite its diverse jurisdictions, has maintained its liturgical integrity and historical practices and would never adulterate and pollute itself with heresy as have the papalists within their centralized papal monarchy.

The Roman liturgical tradition has disintegrated aesthetically, and as the beauty of worship disappears, so does awe. Prayer is a teacher, and minimized, trivialized and modernized prayer fails to teach very much. It is our deeply rich, historic, and theologically packed liturgical tradition that is the treasure of Orthodoxy. The heretical papalists have rejected so many ancient traditions of Christian worship--its fasts, rites, mystery, and poetry.

Come to the US and drop in on any local heresy driven Roman Catholic parish and witness hand-waving "praise masses", cookies for children during their matzo- Eucharist. Watch interpretive dancers fluttering down the aisles, lame "Peter, Paul and Mary" style folk music, watch women, children and even non-catholic passerby distribute communion. These are all similar trappings of post-Vatican II desacralized and trivialized worship. It's not something we Orthodox would ever want to go near. Nor do some Catholic churches' New Age-flavored classes in Buddhist Zen meditation and enneagram spirituality have much appeal to people who call themselves "Orthodox Christian" for a reason.

The Orthodox liturgical tradition is too precious to be squandered to satisfy the ecumenist ambitions of any pope, spineless Orthodox bishop, or committee of theologians. Years of fruitless "dialogue" and "photo-ops" won't be redeemed by any disastrous reunion. As traditional Roman Catholics openly say, modern innovation has destroyed anything once considered sacred in contemporary Roman worship. Traditional Catholics often drive many miles to find one of the few remaining Roman churches that worship in a way that they think can even be called Catholic. What they call "modern innovation" is really the mindless innovations of the papacy. But again a deluded papalist can never blame the papacy directly for anything.

Let us Orthodox count our blessings! Why squander our great treasure of liturgical worship and betray our collegial tradition? Why would we ever want to join ourselves to heretical Rome, when Rome herself can hardly tell us what her worship is or what it should be, and when it will clearly not renounce the authority it wrongly claimed at the beginning of the second millennium. We cannot forget the cacophony of errors and heretical innovations that have been piled one on top of another since then. Orthodoxy has preserved crucial elements of worship without a papal monarchy. And if church is not about worship, then what is it supposed to be about?

An Orthodox Christian revival is occurring in Russia! All of the mindless and evil fairytales of Fatima will not stop this fact. Nor will the insidious Vatican mission to convert Russia unto her own errors succeed. Day by day in Latin America, Rome loses more and more to Evangelical Protestantism. The western media's attention still remains on the horrific scandals caused by child predator priests and the bishops that are still covering up their despicable crimes. The papal churches in Western Europe are practically empty. The 75,000 tribes of Rome are in unrest and in rebellion against their own papacy. Pope Benedict XVI is too late. The vast majority of Catholics are lukewarm nominal believers.

In other words, chaos and controversy will continue to swirl around Rome and her de-sacralized altars. The West wonders why the Russian people and Government do not want the heretical Roman Catholic Church or any of her despicable pedophile predators on their soil or on their canonical territory. Simply put the Vatican desires to turn Russia into some kind of papalist Jacko "Neverland". The Orthodox Russian people will never let this occur.

To conclude, there has been no greater assault on the Western Church than the one presented by the proud and boastful papacy after 1054AD. The institution of the papacy has bludgeoned many would-be believers with lies and falsehoods throughout the centuries causing the exponential degradation and trivialization of the Western Christian Faith and its worship. It has also produced another kind of evil, the Crusades, the Inquisition, St. Bartholomew-s Day Massacre the "Malleus Maleficarum" , the slaughter of the Huguenots, the slaughter of the Serbian Orthodox during WWII under Anton Pavelich and most recently the discovery of the Vatican sub-culture that tolerates the molestation of very little children, to name but a few. Sadly, maybe the latter has been going on for many centuries. We will simply never know.

With the creation of the papacy, Roman Catholics have impaled tradition and dragged it down the heretical path of their whims and innovations. Hardly being of divine decree, the papacy was not even a good and sensible human invention. From the tenth century onwards, the "Western Church", through the papacy, has privily brought onto herself strange and heretical doctrines and innovations not known to the Un-Divided Orthodox Catholic Church of Antiquity. In these last times the evil one has rent from the Orthodox Catholic Church of Christ even whole nations in the West, having inflated the bishops of Rome with thoughts of excessive arrogance, which has given birth to divers lawless, heretical and anti-evangelical innovations. And not only so, but furthermore the popes of Rome from time to time, pursuing absolutely and without examination modes of union according to their own fancy, strive by every means to reduce to their own errors the Orthodox Catholic Church of Christ, which throughout the world walks unshaken in the Orthodoxy of faith transmitted to her by the fathers. In doing so she has been torn away and removed far from the True and Orthodox Catholic Church of Christ.

Nicholas the first was in fact the first Pope. They who before this occupied the see of Rome, were only bishops, successors, not of St. Peter, as has been declared and repeated to satiety, but of Linus, who was already bishop of Rome when St. Peter arrived in that city, to seal there by his martyrdom the faith he had preached. The defenders of the Papacy commit, therefore, at the outset, one of the grossest historical errors in carrying back the Papacy, that is, the Papal sovereignty, to the origin of Christianity. This error has led them to a thousand others, impelled, as they have been, to seek proofs for the support of this false theory in the history of the Church and in the writings of the ancient fathers.

The papalists have thus wrested facts and distorted testimonies. They have even dared to attack Holy Scripture, and by delusive anti-Catholic (that is Orthodox) interpretation, made it bear false witness in favor of their system. It is thus that the Church of Rome was the first to give example of those individual interpretations for which she so bitterly reproaches - Protestantism. She was the first to abandon the Catholic rule of the interpretation of the sacred books; she has put aside the collective interpretation of which the fathers of the Church have been the faithful echoes, and upon her own authority she has presumed to discover in Scripture that which the Orthodox Catholic Church has not found there.

As a result of the errors of the papacy Martin Luther would protest heretical papal innovations. Then Ulrich Zwingli, Calvin and others would arrive on the scene. As a consequence the West today knows 28,000 sects that refer to themselves as Christian. (See the 2000 US Census) In other words, as a direct result of the proud and boastful papacy massive Christian division would be born in the Western world. The Protestant evangelical tradition came to life with their belief in "sola scriptura" and the rejection of any organized church. This attempt to return to the Early Church by throwing everything away and starting over from scratch is an error and contradictory. For example, if you believe in the concept of the Holy Trinity you really are following the Apostolic Fathers of the Orthodox Catholic Church and the Holy Ecumenical Synods whom established these basic doctrines.

If you look to the authority of the New Testament you must first realize who had the authority to construct the New Testament in the first place. Does the Bible produce the church or did the Church produce the Bible? The answer: It was authorized and constructed by the Orthodox Church and her first three Holy Ecumenical Synods. I doubt many Protestants have ever bothered to study the apostolic sources outside the Gospels or the Ecumenical Synods of the Early Christian Church. It's like claiming you can understand the US government while refusing to read the Federalist Papers or any court decisions. Besides, there is little doubt that the only Church the early Christians would even begin to recognize today would be the Orthodox Church. What the evangelicals have created has no relationship whatsoever with the Church as it was founded.

The papacy and the Vatican has come thus to arrogate for her usurped sovereignty a divine foundation. She has drawn from this principle all its consequences; the Pope has become the "vicar of Jesus Christ", the necessary centre of the Church, the pivot of Christianity, the infallible organ of heaven. These Papal errors were so skillfully disseminated in the Western countries that they were there gradually adopted. The protests which they drew forth were indeed continued, but partaking of the spirit of the age, they were not sufficiently pointed; such even as were raised against the abuses of the Papacy, admitted as beyond question a divine basis for that institution.

Since 1054 AD, the cacophony of heretical innovations, fables and fairy tales created by the papacy and the subsequent Marion delusions that affirm heretical papal dogma, "As manna falls from Heaven", are colossal obstacles to any true reunion. Certainly this dead pope returning a fake copy of the Kazan icon was not the answer, nor was his return of stolen war booty (Holy Relics of Orthodox Saints) kept in the Vatican for 800 years. If this dead pope was really serious why didn't he renounce the cacophony of papal heresies since 1054 AD and return ALL of the stolen Orthodox war booty? Answer, it was an insidious Vatican scheme to get a papal mission scheduled on Holy Orthodox Russian soil.

We Orthodox know that the Holy Orthodox Church has instructed us, through the glorious Apostles, Sacred Scriptures and the teachings of our holy Fathers that confession and defense of the Orthodox Faith is necessary, for the time will come when people "shall turn away their ears from the truth and shall be turned aside unto fables" 2 Tim. 4:4

How necessary then is it for the West to come back and return home to the ancient and unadulterated doctrines of the Early Undivided Orthodox Catholic Church in order to attain the "Truth in all things" after which they so earnestly seek. Can you easily understand if you intelligently consider the command of the heaven-ascended Apostle Paul to the Thessalonians, saying:

'Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle' . . .

"Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their own conversation:"Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever. Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines." ( Heb. xiii. 7,8 )

The Humble Thoughts
Of An Orthodox Christian+

Sources

Imperial Unity and Christian Division
John Meyendorff
St. Vladimir's Seminary Press 1989

Let's Keep Our Distance" Article Frank Schaeffer
www.beliefnet.com/story/44/story_4411_1.html

The History of the Byzantine State
George Ostrogorsky 1969

"An Anniversary of Mourning"
Josephat the Malevolent
by Nicholas Maas 1996
www.orthodoxinfo.com/ecumenism/josaphat_malevolent.aspx

The Orthodox Church
Timothy Ware 1990

The Lives of the Pillars of Orthodoxy
Holy Apostles, Dormition Skete 1990
www.buenavistaco.com/GOC/hac-hb05-pillars.html

Mother Teresa: Her people and her work
Desmond Doig, Harper and Row, NY p. 156


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"We must let our Christ shine forth upon the Western nations, our Christ whom we have preserved intact and whom they have never known". Fyodor Dostoevsky, "The Idiot"
Pt. 4, Ch. 7





8/2/2005
PRIESTSUCK Are Catholic priests RULER OF THE WORLD?

OUR GLOBE RULE BY LAWS THAT ESTABLISHED BY PEOPLE (US) NOT BY THOSE STUPID PRIESTS.

GO TO HELL BAD PRIESTS!
7/24/2005
Maew Our family made a life mistake sending our children to hell, to let the bad priests sexually abused them for years, simple becuase WE DON'T KNOW THE INFORMATION. We have never received any news from our local newspaper and news to tell us that priests could be evil. We only recieved one source of news from the church that Roman Catholic is good religion and preists is good. Why lie? why?

Look at the BBC news, it is totally different stories from what the church spread in our country. Can any one stop those priests harm to the world?

Tuesday, 23 April, 2002, 16:42 GMT 17:42 UK
A global scandal
(BBC GOBAL NEWS)http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/1945848.stm


Although the sexual abuse scandal engulfing the Catholic Church in the US has received the most media attention, similar cases have occurred in other countries.
Most of the cases centre on Europe and Latin America, where the Church remains a pillar of the established order in many societies.

The countries involved include:


Australia: Australia's most senior churchman, Sydney Archbishop George Pell, was forced to admit offering thousands of dollars to the family of alleged child victims of sexual abuse by priests.
From our archive:
Bishop admits abuse money offer

The Church has publicly apologised to British and Maltese child migrants who suffered physical and sexual abuse in religious institutions between the 1930s and 1960s.

From our archive:
Australian church apologises to child migrants



Austria: The Church has admitted that accusations of paedophilia levelled against its former head, Archbishop of Vienna Hans Hermann Groer, are substantially true.
From our archive:
Austrian bishops label cardinal a paedophile


France: In 2001, a court gave a three-month suspended sentence to Bishop Pierre Pican, who was accused of covering up for a paedophile priest.
From our archive:
Bishop convicted in paedophile case


Ireland: Bishops have backed a wide-ranging investigation into child abuse over the past 60 years after more than 20 priests, brothers and nuns were convicted of molesting children. The Bishop of Ferns resigned following heavy criticism of his handling of sex abuse allegations.
From our archive:
Irish cardinal 'regrets' abuse


Poland: The hint of scandal has even reached the Pope's native land, where a Roman Catholic archbishop has been accused of sexually abusing seminarians and priests. He denies the allegations.
From our archive:
Polish archbishop 'molested students'


South Africa: The head of the Church has admitted that about a dozen priests have been accused of sexually abusing children, but that the cases happened "many years ago".
From our archive:
South Africa's Catholics admit sex abuse


UK: The Church in England and Wales has set up an independent committee to advise it on how to stop sexual abuse after a number of cases involving paedophile priests. The Archbishop of Wales resigned after criticism of his handling of paedophile cases.
From our archive:
Catholics tackle paedophile priests


Brazil: Church officials in the world's largest Roman Catholic country have admitted that paedophilia is a problem. "The problem of sexual appetite is one that afflicts every human being," said Bishop Angelico Sandalo Bernardino.

Mexico: The Church has been accused of covering up cases of sex abuse and even paying money to silence the victims. One cardinal was lambasted by the country's press after suggesting that the church should not wash its "dirty laundry" in public.
2/14/2005
kelly What is religion? Is religion a lie? The bad catholic priests sexually abused my children for years. They are protected by the church and the higher priests. No law can judge them. Why?

All the priests pretended to be good in the society , then use this public image to do harm to our children and all their crimes are protected by the church. Why?

2/12/2005
Steven 1,200 cases of children abuse!!!! That is sucks!!!

Priests drinking that is totally against Jesus teaching. Wine represent Jesue blood, how can priest drink wine everyday?

I have once questioned where will our donation money go because every time I went to the church, the priests ask me to donate my money to help the poors. Now I know. Our donation money is all go for the priests daily luxury eating and drinking! SUCKS!

2/12/2005
HATEPRIESTS Those priests are technically PSYCHO!!! 2/4/2005
victimfamily I wish an ideal organisation will appear to stop the Catholic priests invade the world.

I am a mother of two children. I brought my children to the church becasue I receive the message from church and the priests that they are good. My children ended up sexually molested by the priests for years. I was in a completed shocked and anger when I knew what my children told me was a complete truth. As I mother I sent my children to hell. I tried many ways to report to the churches, to any authorities. It is not working. The churches and the priests made up the sotries that we are mad family who created trouble to the church and the priests. The story is completely different. The are big organisation, they are cunning, and they lie, so people believe in them. How can a tiny family like us to defense them.

American are lucky because their medias are powerful and people are brave. But not in our country , but not in all asia countries.


2/4/2005
Ardelle H The church and the priests keep asking us to donate our money to help the poors,. We did. Where did those money go? Did the money really goes to the poors? or Did the money go to feed the Bad priests around the world? I doubt? 2/3/2005
May Jail all the bad priests!!!!!!!!!
2/3/2005
A SURFER SICK BAD PRIESTS !

2/2/2005
john Well, Mr. bad priests are above the Law! They can do whatever they want without getting punishment! 2/1/2005
steve Bad priests should be judeged by the laws!

2/1/2005
fatherunknown --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/8-16-2003-44289.asp The simple fact:
If I were a crimal and I knew that whatever serious crime I commit, I will receive no punishment. Someone and some huge organization will always watch my back and protect my wrongdoings. I will simply commit more and more crimes and enjoy doing it.

This simple fact apply to the bad priests around the world too. Which priest will care about sexual abuse a child or a woman or cheat their money, I know i am safe whatever wrong thing I do. I will simply doing more. I enjoy earning benefits from the others without efforts.

1/28/2005
stop Mr. priest A good person doing one SMALL mistake will feel HUGE inner guilty.

while a bad person make HUGE wrongdoings will feel LITTLE or NO guilty.

I believe those Catholic priests are the second type -- that is why they can continue to doing the wrong thing to harm the other innocent people and still can live without guilt !

1/28/2005
Chris There are just so many bad priests hidden in the church. It is just like hiden bomb can go off anytime.

I doubt about the church quality of selecting the Fathers. What is the qualification(both moral and tangible education) of being a father and priest or nun?

If those priests and nun posses standard moral and actual education, how would such huge amount of sexual abuse occur in America?

This is a need to question the standard of the church?
1/27/2005
Fr. unknown Honestly speaking, I still have the faith in God. I sincerely wish Vatican and the authorities will wake up one day to accept and correct what those bad priests did one day. I believe this day of awaken will come, but it may take time........ a year... a decade.... or a century....

The cover up culture are just rooting too deep down!
1/27/2005
Fr. unknown I am a priest used to live in Convitto San Tomasso in Rome Italy - the place where SOMETRUTHTOTELL mentioned. I accept what SOMETRUTHTOTELL mention is the TRUTH AND FACT.

Honestly speaking, Convitto San Tomasso is a TERRIBLE EVIL PLACE FOR THE PREISTS. Almost all the priests are EVILS in there - even they are not at the beginning stage, but later they will learn how to be ONE in this place by examples and peers influence.

Inside this place all the priests must follow the tradition, set by the Irish fathers and his two laymen follwers and watchdogs, drinking alcohol and eating feast every meal; The preists flirt with the women and nuns either secretely or openly; The priests used their Fatherhood status to cheat and trick the tourists(especailly female and children).... I witnessed so many crying faces after they were cheated.

In Convitto San Tomasso, all the priest students, from different parts of the globe, Australia, Europe, North America, South America, Asia, learn that be a priest can enjoy very special evil privilege and they will be protected no matter what they did bad to the society and tourists, from the bad examples of their evil peers and authorities. They all learned that cover up and protection is their culture. They are safe and have no fear to make futher crimes no matter in any sport of the globe because their highest authorities will come to save them if their evil acts expose to the general public. When they return to their own countries or when they are sent to the other countries for their mission, they continuously apply their evil tradition of cheating and sexual abuse......

Priests can do evil things without going to the jail in Rome and are surely protected and cover up whatever they did. Why should they fear to do more?

My personal tip:
Convitto San Tomasso is located at the back of Roman Forum - the center of Rome. It is very close to almost all the famous tourist sports in Rome. If you go there just be careful of the strangers who are extremely kind and sincere to you. They might turn up to be a priest or nun.

If a priest or nun so generous and kind pay you a meal or a drink or show you around in Rome, don't feel guilty of it. You don't have to think of paying them back next time because that would be the cause of beginning a dangerous friendship.

You will consistently feel those priests and nuns are so generous and kind to pay you meals and drinks when they show you around. You will feel own them. You will also see them so kind to pick up all their coins to pay the beggars along the way. You will see them follow the law and order perfectly. You will see them behave very well and must be well educated. You will feel that you are so lucky to meet the most sincere and honest people in the world and can be friend with them. You will feel you believe in God more than ever. When you feel that you are a mouse in those evil priests and nun trap.

Don't feel sad or betrayal, when you find out that what they paid for you along are stealing or cheating from you right after they gain your trust and friendship; don't feel yourself is stupid or neive, if you give your full trust and friendship to them after you realizing you were cheated. Don't cry and feel sad, if you see them suffer and struggle to continue their friendship with you. It is a signal that they have already taken enough from you and they want to get rid of you and while at the same time still keeping you to think they are the best men and women in the world.

It may take you a year or two to realize you have met a goup of perfect COIN MEN AND WOMEN IN ROME AND THIER CAREER ARE just PRIESTS AND NUNS!


1/27/2005
badpriestsbelongtojail Vatican and Roman Catholic churches sucks! Never admit and correct their mistakes and wrongdoings. Bad priests, cover up no longer works, the world is now connected by the internet.

Please take a look at this articles, see what and how the Vatican response to their wrongdoings!!

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/000449.html

1/26/2005
badpriestsbelongtojail Dear Bad Catholic priests,

Bad priests, no matter where you are now, in Rome or in African or in Asia or in America, remember HELL AND JAILS ARE THE PLACE WHERE YOU WILL AND SHOULD BELONG TO ( NOW OR IN THE COMING FUTURE.)

BAD PRIESTS AND NUNS GO TO HELL AND JAILS!!!!!!!

An innocent victims of abused by Catholic priests in Asia.

1/26/2005
sometruthtotell Dear Staff,
It is not only in the State. It is happen around the world too espeically in Rome ( the Catholic place).
Priests team up to cover up for one another instead of sending the bad priests to jail. There is no wonder why the PRIESTS CRIME became more and more serious in the State!!!

Read the truth below carefully:

I am writing to let the world know about how do the bad priests live in Rome,Italy.
In a place call Convitto S. Tommaso (Via Degli Ibernesi 20, 00184 Rome, Italy Tel: 0669791601)
The bad priests team up and cover up for one another. Here are what bad things they did to the general publics and against the general law and orders:
1. The Philippine Sister sleeps with the Fathers in Convitto S Tommaso in order to keep her job to stay in Rome not return to Philippine.
2. The head of the Father ( Father Luke) regularly calls the Sister to sleep with him in his room at night.
3. The head of the Father (Irish Fahter Luke) also lead every priest in Convitto S Tommasso drink. Every priests enjoy drinking unlimited supply of both white and red wine during their lunch and dinner time with plentiful and luxury supply of foods served by Philippine servant. Fathers are chatting women issue, travel Europe issues, and eating issues during their meals time with laughters.
4. Those Bad Fathers team up to cheat the tourists and innocent youngests money, valuable possession in Rome.
You can find those bad fathers hide those cheating and stolen GOLD AND JEWEL somewhere in Convitto S Tommasso.
5. The bad Fathers against the Italian Law without feeling guilty - the walk into the public transportation often without paying ticket.
6. They use dirty tricks to decieve teenagers and kids to have fun sex with them.

Those bad priests students from Convitto S Tommasso have learned that committing a crime is okay in Rome and the other Fathers will help them to cover up.
Therefore,when they return to their own country, they just go on what they did in Rome - continuous to do bad things to harm to the general public and the society!

12/5/2004
religionSucks sorry, i'm not a little boy mr. priest 5/25/2004
religionSucks ok, that's like saying you breath because you're told to. you know you need to breath, but as for religion why the hell do you think you NEED it, the truth is the catholic church is crumbling as it usually does, and even more truthful is that no damn church can trutly reflect god, god wants us to live good lives and not become as slaves to religion, he wants you to live your life not to be harnessed in chains of "ooo boy i hope i don't sin or i'll go to hell" if you sin and you know it's wrong but you're sorry for it, it's cool.... so now what do you say towards your oh so precious religios beliefs? 5/25/2004
CatholicFreek it's god's word, he told us to do it 5/25/2004
religionSucks ok, tell me why exactly you believe in that then maybe i'll shut up 5/25/2004
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