Western European Colonial Odium and Evildoing Against the Aramaeans and the Oriental Christianity
In this series of articles, I will reproduce a devastating denunciation of the acts of several Aramaeans who, betraying their nation and Christian religion, help promote the calamitous and heinous policies of the Western European colonial powers; the vicious Anti-Aramaean hatred originates from the ages old hatred against Jesus and the language in which he spoke, which was not Ancient Hebrew (already extinct several centuries before Jesus came to life) but Aramaic.
Perpetrated by a combination of the most inhuman and adverse forces, the Anti-Aramaean scheme brought on one front - against the very ancient nation of the Aramaeans - the following forces: Vatican, (Ancien Regime) Kingdom of France, Napoleonic and Republican France, England, the Apostate Freemasonic Lodge "grand orient de France", parts of the Protestant and Anglican establishments, and the pro-European part of the US establishment. In the Middle East, the various local agents of the aforementioned forces, involving tribal gangsters of the Pan-Arabist, Pan-Kurdist and pseudo-Assyrian elites, manipulated Islamic extremists, and murderous tyrants ruling at times Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Jordan have always coordinated – even at their unbeknownst – against the Aramaeans.
Too bad for the great Ottoman and Safevid Iranian empires that controlled before almost 300 years the entire land between Morocco and India, their imperial elites – plunged in the decadence theologies of Hanbal and Ibn Taimiya –, failed to identify the Anglo-French perfidy against their Aramaean Christian subjects. Modern Turkey and Pahlavi Iran also failed to identify that by supporting their Aramaean minorities and by stressing the Aramaean Heritage – which is common to them – they would greatly empower themselves against the evil Western colonial theories, academic systems and dogmas of Orientalism, Pan –Arabism and Islamism.
As Aramaeans live today in the Diaspora in great numbers, after having been mercilessly persecuted by the evil colonial regimes of England and France in their own land, Mesopotamia and Syria, the colonial schemes against them have by now been properly relocated and studiously directed against the Aramaean Diaspora; the diffusion of the historical falsehood that today’s Aramaeans are the descendents of the Ancient Assyrians consists in what patriotic and truthful Aramaeans denounce as Spiritual Genocide. The traitors, the ‘Assyrianists’, are greatly funded and, with the help of the colonial diplomacies, put in contact with terrorist groups like PKK that help complete the eradication of the last remaining Aramaeans from the Middle East.
Aram Nahrin is a leading Aramaean NGO dedicated to the National – and Noble – Cause of the Aramaeans; their devastating denunciation reveals all the colonial evildoings perpetrated in Western Europe against the Aramaeans. In forthcoming articles, I will complete the republication of their denunciation.
Sabri Atman and Hezbollah- Aram
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Sabri_Atman_War_Against_Aramean_Nation_28_1_2009.htm
Sabri Atman: A man of standards and values or... an manipulator and abuser of the Aramean Physical Genocide to promote the immoral western criminal spiritual colonial and slavery product "Assyrians"?
A strong trump in the hands of the horrible Jesus of the West to torment and dishonor the Aramean Nation.
Introduction
1. Sabri Atman and Aramean youngsters in Germany – Aram Hezbollah
1.1 The deep hidden hatred of Sabri Atman for the Aramean people
1.2 Gabriel Rabo answers Sabri Atman.
1.3 Sabri Atman becomes furious: The "Assyrian" terrorists in Germany and elsewhere start a horrible and demonic hate campaign against Mr. Gabriel Rabo and the Aramean people.
2. Sabri Atman in Belgium: 9-2-2007 On the quarrel with Hazael Somi: Interview on 9-3-2007 and 11-3-2007.
2.1 The Position of Aram-Nahrin
2.2 Interview with Sabri Atman on the events in Belgium.
2.3 Part 2 of the interview: 11-3- 2007, The beard... and clothes of clergy. Taliban
2.4 The Western masters and the Antichrist the "Assyrian": Why?
2.5 No friends of Hazael Somi.........however we believe he is 10 cent better than Sabri Atman
3. Sabri Atman, the Mor Qurayaqos church in Enschede and "Het Netwerk"
4. Interview Atman SuryoyoSat 10-4-2008
5. The biggest victims of Atman.
6. Appeal to Sabri Atman
7. Message for the terrorist "Assyrians"
Introduction
The Aramean people since centuries has became a plaything in the hands of sinister forces of darkness which, century after century, incite the people against one another, have divided and brainwashed them to forget their rich and glorious culture or have been put in such a state of mental confusion and hopelessness, that they clamp themselves to everything which is provided by outsiders, without testing the value of what is put on the (serving) tray.
It was under this lugubrious situation caused by the renegade part of the Western Christianity that is preaching a kind of 'Jesus' that has nothing to do with Jesus Christ of the Bible, who is nobody but the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Thanks to the horrible practices of the Jesus of the West, the Arameans were massacred, their women raped, their sons killed, their fields, vineyards, farmlands were appropriated by strangers, their native country they inhabited for thousands of years was assumed by foreign peoples who now terrorize and subject them. A example of this is the situation in Iraq. Another example is the Aramean monastery Mor Gabriel in Turkey.
It was due to the unholy practices of the renegade Jesus of the West that fanaticism, nationalism and false names were brought to the Arameans which ultimately led to their collapse. The Western spiritual and political powers targeted the defenceless and often simple Arameans of the Middle East, thereby dividing and brainwashing them by means of bribery and corruption from all sides with the result: their downfall in the Middle East was facilitated.
When in 1553 the Roman Catholic missionaries, along with France brainwashed a part of the East Aramean Nestorians to separate them from their mother church and henceforth to call themselves "Chaldeans", the competing England could not stay behind.
For this reason, the same game of bribery and brainwashing was repeated in the 19th century, now carried out by England with the Anglican Mission. The remaining part of the East Aramean Nestorians, who refused to follow Rome, were brainwashed to call themselves henceforth "Assyrians". And today are these apostate Aramean who call themselves "Assyrians" who provoke and terrorize the Aramean people by all means possible.
This apostate Arameans dear reader, get support from their Western masters and spiritual fathers to commit genocidal practices against our people, either through media or through conferences in the European Parliament, or by other means. In the Netherlands, for example, these perpetrators of spiritual genocide have access to the political parties, media and other institutions to continue the terror against our people. Some evil racists within the Evangelical Broadcasting Channel have been for many years engaged in a genocidal terror against our people using the spiritual product of their odious forefathers.
Parallel to the implementation and diffusion of the abovementioned false identities on academic and cultural level, the Roman Catholic church has exerted every effort to utterly divide the Eastern Orthodox Christianity and to implement hatred . To achieve this, no means was shunned, including the use of the powers of the Middle East to get the Aramean and Orthodox Christians to their knees. This is how the Jesus of the West works. For example, the creation of the West-Aramean Syrian Catholic Church was achieved by a unholy alliance of political and Spiritual powers. Regarding this alliance, Sebastien De Courtois tells us,
"…..The first [Syrian] Catholic Patriarch had been consecrated in Aleppo in 1662 with French help through the mediation of Ambassador Francois Picquet (page 33)…. .. which was encouraged by French diplomats present in Aleppo at that time. The diplomats favored the separation in the hope of one day uniting the Eastern Churches with that of Rome (XIX)…. The Catholic mission activities were strongly supported by French Ministry of Foreign Affairs policy, which had been reinforced in the region by creation in 1856 of a vice-consulate in Diyarbekir at the request of the Vatican" (page. 36)
See here dear reader, how the powerful ,,Jesus of the West" have amalgamated the spiritual and secular powers to weaken the Aramean people of Mesopotamia under the cover of ,,unity". This kind of unholy ,,evangelism" has been misused by ,,Jesus of the West" to plant his ideology of ,,dividing and ruling" in the Middle-East resulting in great consequences for the Aramean nation.
A person who still seems to continue with the war of the Catholic church is professor Herman Teule of the Catholic University of Nijmegen with his ridiculous usage of the terms like "Monophysite", a fake term invented by the apostate Western Christianity, to torment and taunt the Eastern Orthodox and the Syrian Orthodox Church (These Churches always have recognized the two natures of Christ, namely: Perfect God and Perfect Man).
The apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians", do not hesitate to use all means possible to spread this lie-name and falsify the history of our people. Yes, they even went for the path of terrorism to advertise this criminal lie-name. More about this:
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Monstrous_Alliance_PKK_ADO_24_4_1993.htm
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/The_Primitive_dangerous_ADO_ideology_16_9_2008.htm
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Sweden_Aramean_Genocide_5_1_2008.htm
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Aramean_Fuat_Deniz_Slaughtered_By_Cousin_13_2_2008.htm
A big asset in the hands of their Western masters to dishonour and torment the Aramean nation is Mr. Sabri Atman. As we will show, Atman uses the Aramean physical genocide with all possible means to commit a spiritual genocide by glorifying the false name "Assyrians". In this genocide war against our people, Atman gets support from his Western masters and spiritual Creators.
Before we proceed, we first have to answer this questions, namely: What is genocide?
Genocide can be categorized as: Physical and Spiritual genocide. Physical genocide means extermination by killing a nation. Mr. Atman presents himself as a specialist on the physical genocide, while committing spiritual genocide.
Spiritual genocide is implementation of division and hatred, inciting family against family, daughter against mother, son against father, village against village, weakening of a nation, extermination of their cultural heritage by diffusion of fake identities, introduction of fanatical nationalism based on fake identities, division of spiritual institutions, bribery and brainwashing of their leaders to weaken them, distortion of their history and identity ..etc... etc...
The Turks and Kurds have committed physical genocide, while the spiritual genocide was committed by the Western diplomats and missionaries. And this spiritual genocide is today being continued undiminished and with all possible efforts by Mr. Atman, by misusing the Aramean physical genocide, to advertise the criminal Western invention and fake name "Assyrians" in reference to our people, exactly as his Western masters and creators had in mind to do so.
So, the question is then of course: What is the reason Mr. Atman so eager to talk about genocide? What is the agenda behind this genocide issue? And what does Mr. Atman want to achieve with this? Is the goal really recognizing the Aramean genocide committed by the Turks and Kurds? If so, why then he is calling it "Assyrian" genocide? One thing is very obvious and that is: Mr. Atman is taking every opportunity and is utterly exploiting every possibility to advertise the immoral, objectionable and already besmirched with blood and terrorism western spiritual colonial product "Assyrians" - a product invented by the Western masters of Mr. Atman to culturally exterminate the Aramean nation. But of course Mr. Atman is using various methods and tricks to carefully camouflage and hide his real intentions and fool the poor and unsuspecting people. Later on, this will be explained thoroughly.
In the presence of elderly people and on television, Mr. Atman very smartly speaks of "Syrian Genocide" (= Suryoye Seyfo). However, when he is in contact with foreigners, for example members of the European Parliament, he tries by all means possible to present the Aramean nation with the fake name "Assyrians".
As a Human Rights Organisation we consider this as a fraud, manipulation, deception and spiritual genocide. Basically, this is nothing but a big spit and the face of our people and a evidence of disrespect.
Do not be misled dear reader, when Mr. Atman is using the word "Syrian", he automatically mean "Assyrian", because we think Atman is following the criminal ideology of the terrorist organisation ADO which is following the Lost-A trick (Also this will be explained)
In addition, Mr. Sabri Atman is eager to present himself as a "expert" and is doing his best everywhere to talk about genocide. He comes with pleasure to talk about genocide and the great injustice done to the Aramean people which he falsely is calling "Assyrian" people or "Syrian" people in order to fool the nation.
What many blinds and fools are not aware of is that Mr. Atman, likewise many others, is doing nothing but misusing the Aramean physical genocide to spread and advertise the Western spiritual colonial slavery product "Assyrians". And with that Mr. Atman is committing spiritual /cultural genocide against the Aramean nation which is much worse than the physical genocide.
Please be informed of the following: At the moment that people like Sabri Atman became aware that their real intentions are being unmasked, they will start with a terrible campaign to ridicule you, to attack you and to come up with gamut of absurd accusations, like for example "you work for the Turks", "you are Hizb-Allah", "you are fundamentalist", "you are intolerant". etc.. etc..
This is typical the trademark of the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians" to put others in bad light. Woe betide you, if you dare to unmask the involvement of the terrorist "Assyrians" with terrorism. Because they will start their hate-machine and ridicule you like "you are dividing our people", "you work for the enemy", "you hate Assyrians", "you should not judge people", etc.. etc..
We will present our analysis as follows:
1. Sabri Atman and the Aramean youth in Germany- Aram Hezbollah- Binladen
2. Sabri Atman in Belgium on 9-2-2007. On the quarrel in Belgium with bishop Hazael Somi: Interview on 9-3-2007 and on 11-3-2007.
3. Sabri Atman and Mor Quraqos church in Enschede.
4. Interview Sabri Atman on SuryoyoSat: 10-4-2008
5. The biggest victims of Atman
6. Appeal to Sabri Atman
7. General message for the "Assyrian" terrorists.
1. Sabri Atman and the Aramean Youth in Germany- Aram Hezbollah- Binladen
In 2006 Sabri Atman gave a talk in Giessen in Germany on Genocide. During this talk the Aramean youth confronted Mr. Atman with his behavior to "Assyrianize" the Aramean nation.
After this discussion in Germany, the Aramean youth started to publish statements on the Suryoyo Online Forum in which they accused Mr. Atman of being a wolf in sheep's clothing. Sabri Atman became furious and started, in consultation with the apostate Aramean who call themselves "Assyrians", a hate campaign against the Suryoyo Online and the webmaster, Mr. Gabriel Rabo. This repugnant campaign was not only aimed at Mr. Rabo and Suryoyo Online, but also utterly criminalized the Aramean nation. On various forums of the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians", extremely offensive and hateful contributions, under fake names, were published in which Mr. Rabo was depicted as "spy for the Turks", "Urenke Gobel" and much more of such-like objectionable, hateful and extremely dirty allegations; exactly in agreement with the heinous "Assyrianists" ideology. This campaign was conducted amongst others on the forums of the "Assyrian" Association Betnahrin in Germany, where the Assyrian terrorism took root, and the Dutch ADO association "Assyrische Mesopotamische Verenging Enschede".
The apostate Aramean who call themselves "Assyrians" are so fanatical and obsessed by the product of their Western fake Christian masters that they had no problem to coin a covenant with the PKK with the main goal to promote this immoral colonial lie-name "Assyrians" and to exterminate the Aramean culture. Really, from such people you may expect everything; the goal seems to justify the means; even so much so to sacrifice boys and girls.
1.1. The Deep and Hidden Hatred of Sabri Atman towards the Aramean People
The first hate generating letter of Sabri Atman to Gabriel Rabo of Suryoyo Online (26-6-2006)
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Letter_Sabri_Atman_To_Suryoyo_Online_26_6_2006.htm
As previously mentioned Sabri Atman and his friends, including in Germany and elsewhere, started a repugnant, tasteless and objectionable hate campaign not only against the person of Mr. Gabriel Rabo in particular, but also against the Aramean nation in general. This awfully hatred was organised amongst others in the "Assyrische Mesopotamien Verein in Augusburg" and also the "Assyrische Mesopotamische ADO Verenging" contributed to this hateful propaganda.
What you should know, dear reader, is that it was in de association "Bethnahrin in Augusburg in Germany", that the Assyrian terrorism took shape, for it was in this very association that in 1993 a delegation of ADO was composed under leadership of Numan Ugur, a Christian and the second man of PKK, to seal an monstrous covenant with the leader of PKK Mr. Ocalan in Syria. More about the "Assyrian" terrorism, their lies, manipulations, fraud and distortions, please read the following analysis:
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Monstrous_Alliance_PKK_ADO_24_4_1993.htm
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/The_Primitive_dangerous_ADO_ideology_16_9_2008.htm
The hate campaign most probably was organised in consultation with Sabri Atman from this and other "Assyrian" associations. It was amongst others on the website of this associations where hideous and nasty statements, under fake names, were spread on the Webmaster of Suryoyo Online. It was also on the website of this association that a hideous and a criminal hate campaign was started against the person of Professor. Dr. Muhammad Shamsaddin
(http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Insults_Assyrian_Terrorists_27_6_2007.htm)
On 26-6-2006 Sabri Atman sent the first letter to the Webmaster of Suryoyo Online and was spread on the website of the "Assyrische Verein" in Augusburg in Germany and is still on their website (see the link above).
We translated the letter into English with the left column the original German text and the right column the translated English Text. Below we will drop few comments to the letter of Mr. Sabri Atman in which he not only attacks Mr. Gabriel Rabo but also ridicules the Aramean nation. And with that indeed Mr. Atman seems to be pleasing his Western masters.
.......Do not you understand that with this kind of information policy, you only promote hostility between us?.......
Exactly Mr. Atman and same question can also be asked to you. Your propaganda for many years to advertise the unholy western spiritual colonial product "Assyrian", does certainly not contribute to the unity within our nation. On the contrary, the awful and criminal ideology has become the epicenter of terrorism, fraud, hatred, lies, distortions, treachery and spiritual cultural extermination of our nation.
........The difference between people who are constantly busy, to insult their people and spread untruth about them, are to my opinion in agreement with the philosophy which is very precisely being adhered by Taliban respectively Hisbollah......
With this quote Mr. Atman seem precisely to describe himself and his friends. Otherwise, why would be wrong and a insult to unmask and denounce the disgusting criminal colonial product "Assyrians"? How about the horrible raping of the girls and killings of the boys in northern Iraq for the sake of the objectionable "Assyrian" ideology? Families were torn up, people were incited against each other, hatred and division has been created. All this just normal, nothing to say about it? And all this just remove it from the table and forget about it by demonizing people who condemn these practises and labelling them as "Taliban" and "Hisbollah?"
And is unmasking and unambiguous denouncing of this hideous crimes to be labeled as "to insult their people and spread untruth about them"?
......Do not they have anything else to do than keeping themselves with the Assyrians and constantly discrediting them?
Again the same question can be asked to you and your hateful friends concerning your horrendous contempt towards the Aramean nation, exactly in the line of your Western masters, the colonial criminals. With your zealous efforts, you seem to succeed in their colonial urge of extermination. Below we will explain what we mean.
One of the organisations which more than thirty years have been working with the "Assyrian" organisations is the Geselshaft fuer Bedrohte Volker in Germany. Regarding this cooperation, they say, " Today we consider it as absurd that the Assyrian Organizations with their nationalism exert the major part of their struggle against the majority of their "Aramean" people in German and the rest of Europe and this struggle comprises the major part of their activities"
Well then Mr. Atman, before attacking the Aramean organizations, please first learn much better yourself. Enjoy the link: http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Threatened_People_Wake_UP_25_10_2007.htm
..........Until now, I have certainly met very decent and respectable persons who present themselves as "Arameans". .......
Very interesting indeed! We don't know who these people are, as far as they consider themselves "Arameans", and sit down together with you on the table, we believe we are dealing here with people who probably have the following characteristics:
1. Whether they are imbeciles and are unaware of your crusades by order of your western colonial masters against the Aramean nation, this will be later explained why.
2. Whether we are dealing here with people who cannot think normal,
3. And last we believe we are dealing with extremely low moral bandits whom you describe as ".......very decent and respectable persons ......."
........These include, in any case neither you nor a few other people who are constantly insulting and make themselves partner in slanderous discussions concerning Assyrian thinking people......
Unmasking terrorism, fraud, history distortion and denouncing raping of girls and killing of boys, you may indeed qualify as ".. insulting and slanderous discussions.....", however with that we believe Mr. Atman, it says something about your standards and values.
According to our analysis and insights, it is a act of crime to cheat your people, your own flesh and blood and go after a mythical "Assyrian" ideology which is not yours. It is something which has been implanted and taught by others. "Assyrian thinking" people? It is a joke, they do not exist. We are dealing here with nothing but the Western colonial immoral perversity which they brought to the Middle-East and brainwashed a part of our nation. You just continue this spiritual colonialism!
On the other hand, it is very smart of Mr. Atman to reduce this issue of the Western colonial immorality in the Middle-East to "views", "beliefs" and "opinions". Perhaps that is why his Western master gave him access to various buildings and support him.
.........The Taliban and Hezbollah have assumed Mohammed as a weapon and terrorize the whole world.......
And you have assumed the "Assyrian" ideology, invented by your Western colonial masters, and are using it against your own people, the Aramean people whom you are taunting and dishonouring under supervision of your masters and spiritual creators.
In addition to this, you seem very well to be familiar with Hisbollah and Taliban. How is this possible? Are you perhaps in love with those ideologies with which you try to discredit others?
...................Do not you feel that your approach have a lot in common with the two terror groups?...............
The same question again can be asked to you. It were the "Assyrian" terrorists who made a covenant with the PKK and most probably you were aware of that. The "Assyrian" terrorists have recruited boys and killed them in northern Iraq and raped girls who were recruited. All this can be justified to advertise the criminal immoral "Assyrian" ideology? And everyone who says something about it and unambiguous condemns it and warns people, is according to you "Taliban" and "Hisbollah", because with that he is "insulting" the "Assyrians"? So, please go with your questions to the "Assyrian" terrorists. We have nothing to do with these ideologies.
..........Do not you use Jesus as a weapon to promote backwardness and hostility within your own people?.......
Very interesting indeed. Is Jesus equal, in the perception to Mr. Atman, to "backwardness" and "hostility"? Probably the most fanatical Jesus-haters would not dare to state such a bold statement. Probably even "Taliban" and "Hisbolloh" would not dare to speak in this way about Jesus.
Therefore, what does our Lord Jesus Christ has to do with this Mr. Atman? Why do you involve Jesus? Do you want to say that the teaching of Jesus is backward as the teaching of Taliban and Hisbollah? How can you use Jesus to promote "backwardness" and "hostility?"
Or do we have to believe that your inner hatred towards the Aramean people is becoming so deep and abominable that you are doing everything to crack them down, including besmirching the name of our Lord? Could this perhaps be a indication for your deep hatred towards our Lord? Has Christ Jesus became such an obstacle in your life?
Atman efendi, nevertheless we will bring to your attention some statements of our Lord Jesus Christ to try to describe your mentality.
Jesus says in Matthew 12:30, "Anyone who is not for me is really against me; anyone who does not help me gather is really scattering"
If Jesus would be now on earth and in your presence would have made this statement, most probably you would than have cracked Him down and ran him into the ground and portrayed him as "fanatic", "extremist", "undemocratic", "having no respect for others", "creating division", "intolerant", "who is this guy to say such hateful statements?", "Hisbollah" and "Taliban".
Below we are going to confront you with more statements of our Lord Jesus. In Revelation 22:11 Jesus says, "Whoever is evil must go on doing evil, and whoever is filthy must go on being filthy; whoever is good must go on doing good, and whoever is holy must go on being holy."
Also this statement of Jesus probably would be immediately denounced by you in terms like, "Who is this guy who says something like this?", "All people are brothers, why making such extreme statements?", "We all are equal, why does this fanatic tries to drive to extreme by dividing them in good and evil?" etc.. etc..
The fact that Mr. Atman links Jesus to "backwardness" and "hatred", which is obviously tantamount to that, we believe this could be a indication of his deep, hidden aversion of Jesus Christ of the Bible.
One thing you can be 100% sure about it and that is this: If our people indeed were following Christ Jesus, there would be worldwide no place for Mr. Atman within our nation. Because the Bible says, "And Christ himself is the means by which our sins are forgiven, and not our sins only, but also the sins of everyone. If we obey God's commands, then we are sure that we know him. If someone says that he knows him, but does not obey his commands, such a person is a liar and there is no truth in him. But whoever obeys his word is the one whose love for God has really been made perfect. This is how we can be sure that we are in union with God: whoever says that he remains in union with God should live just as Jesus Christ did" (1 John 2:2-6)
The fact that you and your friends get access to some of our churches and monasteries, is a strong indication to us that we are dealing here with a people who is rotten to their core and has became utterly immoral that they have rejected totally Jesus Christ and with that they have prepared themselves for a horrifying judgment of the Lord God (Oh no Mr. Atman, spare your efforts and tell your friends: We are not working for the Turks or whomever, but we are slaves of Christ Jesus of the Bible. And probably that is one of the reasons why our organization is being demonized by the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians")
....................Why do not these people change the name of their movement in Hisboll - Aram?
What is going on in your spirit to link the Arameans, who denounce "Assyrainizm", to Hisbollah? Has your hatred for the Arameans become so huge? We are going to explain to you in detail why we do not change the name of our organizations in Hisboll-Aram. Contrary to the criminal and wicked colonial spiritual product "Assyrians" - the product of the Western immorality and perversity in the Middle-East - which you advertise and defend with all possible means, we, the Aramean organizations have no experience with:
- Terrorism
- Recruitment of boys and girls for the PKK to fight in northern Iraq.
- Raping girls and killing boys
-Division within families, including inciting men and women against one another, children against their parents, family against family etc.. etc..
- Spreading of lies, manipulations, distortions and history falsifications etc.. etc..
We have nothing to do with all this filthiness, all this literally have been fulfilled in the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians" and got involved with terrorism. The fact that you are using the term "Taliban" and "Hisbollah" to ridicule the Aramean nation forms a strong indication to us that most probably you are practicing this horrible and objectionable ideologies which you try to project on others. In addition, we again wish to refresh your memory that it was in the "Assyrische" Verein in Augusburg, from which you probably organized your propaganda, where the "Assyrian" terrorism took root. However, this probably does not bother you.
Well then, could it be possible that in this kind of "Assyrian" associations the ideology of "Hisbollah" and "Taliban" is being practiced and taught? And could that be perhaps the reason why they have been involved with terrorism? And does this explain for a important part the lies, the manipulations, recruitment and other objectionable and unholy matters where the Western spiritual colonial lie-product "Assyrians" decorate themselves with?
And forgive us Mr. Atman, however could it be that in your subconscious you recognize something of yourself in these ideologies which you try to project on the Aramean organizations to besmirch them?
1.2. Gabriel Rabo Answers Sabri Atman.
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Answer_Gabriel_Rabo_Letter_Sabri_Atman_26_6_2006.htm
After Mr. Rabo received the offensive letter of Sabri Atman, he responded to the letter of Atman.
In his answer to Atman we read amongst others:
You have because of your attitude and efforts in spreading publicly the false name "Assyrian" for the Aramean people - made yourself in our society unpopular.
With this propaganda and the manipulation of our history, you stimulate hostility and hatred among the Arameans (Suryoye).
I must, unfortunately, assess in your letter that you compare us Arameans with Taliban and Hezbollah - with terrorist organizations - and describe some of us as disrespectful.
You claim that we use Jesus as a weapon to promote backwardness and hostility within our nation.
You urge the Arameans, with your question, to change the name of their "Movement" in Hisboll- Aram" with a reference to Hisbollah, although this is undeserved and totally absurd.
The Answer of Mr. Rabo to Atman speaks for itself. Please read the complete letter.
1.3. Sabri Atman becomes furious: The "Assyrian" terrorists in Germany and elsewhere start a horrible and demonic hate campaign against Mr. Gabriel Rabo and the Aramean people.
As we said at the beginning, when the real face of the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians" of which some of them even got involved with the terrorism, being unmasked, they start a unimaginable hate campaign. On the forum of the "Assyrische" Verein in Augsburg in Germany, most probably in close consultation with Sabri Atman, a horrible hateful statements, under secret names, were published on the person of Mr. Rabo. Not only in Germany but also on the Forum of the Mesopotamische Association in Holland, which is also a ADO association, the hateful propaganda was conducted against the person of Mr. Rabo.
Mr. Rabo was depicted by the "Assyrian" terrorists as "Urenke Goebels", "Working for the Turks", etc.. etc.., typical trademark of the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians" to crack down everyone who do not want to become their doormat.
When Mr. Atman received the response to his letter, on one side he became furious, on the other side he tried to create the impression as if he did not want to bring the Aramean organisations in relation with Taliban and Hezbollah. However, he himself unmasked his real face, so whatever he tries to do, it will not hide his real intentions.
Few comments on the letter of Atman.
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Letter_Sabri_Atman_Suryoyo_Online_13_7_2007.htm
.....................Also, you have surely took note of his answer in which every sentence reflects violation of the rules.
No Mr. Atman, your real face and behaviour towards the Aramean people and organisations has been unmasked and denounced in the letter of Mr. Rabo. This is something quite different, isn't it?
........One should know this: the answer I received from him was far from what decent and respectable people would write.
Very interesting! Look here who is talking about "respect" and "decentness". What should Mr. Rabo have had written in his letter to be qualified by you as "decent" and "respectful"? To approve the killing of the recruited boys and raping of girls in northern Iraq for the sake of the criminal immoral Western colonial "Assyrian" ideology? That it is okay to approve the immoral colonial product of Western masters and to denounce the Aramean heritage of our people? When people reject and denounce the Western immorality and their inner urge to exterminate other nations, are they "indecent" and "improper"?
..........Because the answer I received was from the beginning to the end based on untruths and allegations............
Please let the independent reader decide who is spreading lies, hatred and demonism and who is working in all purity for the Aramean nation.
........Secondly, instead of apologizing, he writes the following: "You have, because of your attitude and efforts by spreading publicly the false name" Assyrian " for the Aramean people - made yourself in our society unpopular. Therefore you need to accept criticism. "
Exactly Mr. Atman and you are busy with this propaganda for many years. We know very well that you are not interested in Genocide, oh no, what is for you in stake is to spread the criminal colonial spiritual product "Assyrians" of your Western masters and that is exactly the reason they help and give you access to various places in order to advertise this unholy immoral invention.
.........I must conclude that decent people, who have sense of responsibility, dot not act in this way......
What should "decent" people do according to Mr. Atman? To approve "Assyrian" terrorism? Is this what he means by "decent" people?
Under the caption " Jihad - The ideology of the Taliban" Mr. Atman is making some strange statement, to say the least.
....... I must make it clear that I, in no way have equated the Aramaean organizations or even those who describe themselves as Arameans, with Taliban or Hezbollah.........
Too late, Mr. Atman clearly showed his hateful face towards the Aramean nation and organizations.
..............On the contrary: I have many esteemed friends, who call themselves Arameans, I know Aramean organizations who do good work.......
Those who identify themselves as "Arameans" and are good friends of Mr. Atman, we believe they have the following characteristics:
1. Whether they are very stupid and have a level of cleverness comparable to chimpanzee and therefore are not aware of anything,
2. Whether, they do not care about standards and values,
3. They are so lukewarm that they do not care about their Aramean identity.
4. No one, really no one, whether a privet person or a organization who do care about their Aramean heritage will accept your attempts of cultural distortion. Out of the question.
Atman explains Jihad-ideology.
........Do not certain persons with this mentality fill several websites with jihad-like witch hunt and slander against Assyrians?
Let we now propose the following Mr. Atman. Please let the reader read the following documents in detail:
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Monstrous_Alliance_PKK_ADO_24_4_1993.htm
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Article_Zaman_16_11_2006.htm
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/The_Primitive_dangerous_ADO_ideology_16_9_2008.htm
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Assyria_Syria_John_Joseph_5_7_2008.htm
Is this terrorism, fraud, lies, manipulations or is this the Jihad-ideology your are talking about? Let the reader decide!
Is it not shameful that such views are there to read?
Is there too much distinction between your inflammatory writings and calls to Jihad of Taliban?
Do you still live in the Middle Ages?
Is the university of Gottingen as a institution of science and education, that you are using it for your website to facilitate the division of our people, riots and misguiding of the youth?
Exactly Mr. Atman! With all these remarks and questions you should go to the "Assyrian" terrorist organizations who made a covenant with the PKK and scarified boys and girls for the sake of the criminal "Assyrian" ideology. Mr. Ocalan himself says, " We shall change history". And do not you in a deeper sense follow the script laid down by the two terrorist organizations to "Assyrianize" the Aramean people? In other words, the Arameans have nothing to do with your remarks because they keep terrorism on a far distance, please address all these remarks to those who glorify the objectionable Western spiritual colonial invention "Assyrians" and made a covenant with the PKK.
Atman explains Taliban mentality.
As it is known, the Taliban were enemies of people who just thought differently than them.
Worse: They did not allow the people with different view the right to life.
They forced (onto others) their fanatical faith and their world views.
Consequently, there is but only one truth for them and even on these, they had the monopoly.
They did not hesitate to declare regularly Jihad against people of other faiths and living ideas
Their greatest weapon was the faith and religious feelings of the people
They do not hesitate to abuse this religiousness
That is what we mean the Taliban mentality
Well then, Mr. Atman, you love to talk in detail about Taliban and Jihad ideology in such a way that you give us the feeling as if you are one of them and daily do practise this ideology.
This ideology is unknown to the Arameans, therefore they keep far away from terrorism. For this reason, you are at the wrong address with your explanation. We suggest you, as a expert on Taliban, Hisbollah and Jihad, in the first place to educate yourselves to stop with your spiritual crusade to "Assyrianize" the Aramean nation, and secondly you should go with your remarks to those who keep themselves busy with terrorism and recruitment, namely the terrorist "Assyrians" who made a covenant with the PKK. We have nothing to do with this ideology as explained by you in detail. Perhaps you can use your "expertise" to advice the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan how adequately to deal with this ideologies.
......Despite the self-designation such as: Arameans, Chaldeans, Syrians, Suroye, Suryoye, Assyrians etc.., all of them concern people from our community. We will work for the unity of our people.....
Well, well, well, very smart of Mr. Atman how he tries to cover the crimes of his Western spiritual creators. All these terms in reference to our people are needless, they all came into being because of the criminal colonial activities of your Western masters among our nation. All of them are Arameans and nothing else.
This has nothing to do with "tolerance" or "different views", but has to do with the denouncement of the activities of the criminal Jesus of the West. Therefore, please do not trivialize the matter by reducing it to "names", because that is not the issue here. What is at the stake, are the crimes of the fake Western Christian activities against our nation which you with all happiness seems to maintain.
Note
Picture: Urhoy, today’s Urfa (SE Turkey), Edessa of Osrhoene for the Romans: a diachronic center of Aramaean Civilization and Oriental Christianity
Perpetrated by a combination of the most inhuman and adverse forces, the Anti-Aramaean scheme brought on one front - against the very ancient nation of the Aramaeans - the following forces: Vatican, (Ancien Regime) Kingdom of France, Napoleonic and Republican France, England, the Apostate Freemasonic Lodge "grand orient de France", parts of the Protestant and Anglican establishments, and the pro-European part of the US establishment. In the Middle East, the various local agents of the aforementioned forces, involving tribal gangsters of the Pan-Arabist, Pan-Kurdist and pseudo-Assyrian elites, manipulated Islamic extremists, and murderous tyrants ruling at times Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Jordan have always coordinated – even at their unbeknownst – against the Aramaeans.
Too bad for the great Ottoman and Safevid Iranian empires that controlled before almost 300 years the entire land between Morocco and India, their imperial elites – plunged in the decadence theologies of Hanbal and Ibn Taimiya –, failed to identify the Anglo-French perfidy against their Aramaean Christian subjects. Modern Turkey and Pahlavi Iran also failed to identify that by supporting their Aramaean minorities and by stressing the Aramaean Heritage – which is common to them – they would greatly empower themselves against the evil Western colonial theories, academic systems and dogmas of Orientalism, Pan –Arabism and Islamism.
As Aramaeans live today in the Diaspora in great numbers, after having been mercilessly persecuted by the evil colonial regimes of England and France in their own land, Mesopotamia and Syria, the colonial schemes against them have by now been properly relocated and studiously directed against the Aramaean Diaspora; the diffusion of the historical falsehood that today’s Aramaeans are the descendents of the Ancient Assyrians consists in what patriotic and truthful Aramaeans denounce as Spiritual Genocide. The traitors, the ‘Assyrianists’, are greatly funded and, with the help of the colonial diplomacies, put in contact with terrorist groups like PKK that help complete the eradication of the last remaining Aramaeans from the Middle East.
Aram Nahrin is a leading Aramaean NGO dedicated to the National – and Noble – Cause of the Aramaeans; their devastating denunciation reveals all the colonial evildoings perpetrated in Western Europe against the Aramaeans. In forthcoming articles, I will complete the republication of their denunciation.
Sabri Atman and Hezbollah- Aram
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Sabri_Atman_War_Against_Aramean_Nation_28_1_2009.htm
Sabri Atman: A man of standards and values or... an manipulator and abuser of the Aramean Physical Genocide to promote the immoral western criminal spiritual colonial and slavery product "Assyrians"?
A strong trump in the hands of the horrible Jesus of the West to torment and dishonor the Aramean Nation.
Introduction
1. Sabri Atman and Aramean youngsters in Germany – Aram Hezbollah
1.1 The deep hidden hatred of Sabri Atman for the Aramean people
1.2 Gabriel Rabo answers Sabri Atman.
1.3 Sabri Atman becomes furious: The "Assyrian" terrorists in Germany and elsewhere start a horrible and demonic hate campaign against Mr. Gabriel Rabo and the Aramean people.
2. Sabri Atman in Belgium: 9-2-2007 On the quarrel with Hazael Somi: Interview on 9-3-2007 and 11-3-2007.
2.1 The Position of Aram-Nahrin
2.2 Interview with Sabri Atman on the events in Belgium.
2.3 Part 2 of the interview: 11-3- 2007, The beard... and clothes of clergy. Taliban
2.4 The Western masters and the Antichrist the "Assyrian": Why?
2.5 No friends of Hazael Somi.........however we believe he is 10 cent better than Sabri Atman
3. Sabri Atman, the Mor Qurayaqos church in Enschede and "Het Netwerk"
4. Interview Atman SuryoyoSat 10-4-2008
5. The biggest victims of Atman.
6. Appeal to Sabri Atman
7. Message for the terrorist "Assyrians"
Introduction
The Aramean people since centuries has became a plaything in the hands of sinister forces of darkness which, century after century, incite the people against one another, have divided and brainwashed them to forget their rich and glorious culture or have been put in such a state of mental confusion and hopelessness, that they clamp themselves to everything which is provided by outsiders, without testing the value of what is put on the (serving) tray.
It was under this lugubrious situation caused by the renegade part of the Western Christianity that is preaching a kind of 'Jesus' that has nothing to do with Jesus Christ of the Bible, who is nobody but the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Thanks to the horrible practices of the Jesus of the West, the Arameans were massacred, their women raped, their sons killed, their fields, vineyards, farmlands were appropriated by strangers, their native country they inhabited for thousands of years was assumed by foreign peoples who now terrorize and subject them. A example of this is the situation in Iraq. Another example is the Aramean monastery Mor Gabriel in Turkey.
It was due to the unholy practices of the renegade Jesus of the West that fanaticism, nationalism and false names were brought to the Arameans which ultimately led to their collapse. The Western spiritual and political powers targeted the defenceless and often simple Arameans of the Middle East, thereby dividing and brainwashing them by means of bribery and corruption from all sides with the result: their downfall in the Middle East was facilitated.
When in 1553 the Roman Catholic missionaries, along with France brainwashed a part of the East Aramean Nestorians to separate them from their mother church and henceforth to call themselves "Chaldeans", the competing England could not stay behind.
For this reason, the same game of bribery and brainwashing was repeated in the 19th century, now carried out by England with the Anglican Mission. The remaining part of the East Aramean Nestorians, who refused to follow Rome, were brainwashed to call themselves henceforth "Assyrians". And today are these apostate Aramean who call themselves "Assyrians" who provoke and terrorize the Aramean people by all means possible.
This apostate Arameans dear reader, get support from their Western masters and spiritual fathers to commit genocidal practices against our people, either through media or through conferences in the European Parliament, or by other means. In the Netherlands, for example, these perpetrators of spiritual genocide have access to the political parties, media and other institutions to continue the terror against our people. Some evil racists within the Evangelical Broadcasting Channel have been for many years engaged in a genocidal terror against our people using the spiritual product of their odious forefathers.
Parallel to the implementation and diffusion of the abovementioned false identities on academic and cultural level, the Roman Catholic church has exerted every effort to utterly divide the Eastern Orthodox Christianity and to implement hatred . To achieve this, no means was shunned, including the use of the powers of the Middle East to get the Aramean and Orthodox Christians to their knees. This is how the Jesus of the West works. For example, the creation of the West-Aramean Syrian Catholic Church was achieved by a unholy alliance of political and Spiritual powers. Regarding this alliance, Sebastien De Courtois tells us,
"…..The first [Syrian] Catholic Patriarch had been consecrated in Aleppo in 1662 with French help through the mediation of Ambassador Francois Picquet (page 33)…. .. which was encouraged by French diplomats present in Aleppo at that time. The diplomats favored the separation in the hope of one day uniting the Eastern Churches with that of Rome (XIX)…. The Catholic mission activities were strongly supported by French Ministry of Foreign Affairs policy, which had been reinforced in the region by creation in 1856 of a vice-consulate in Diyarbekir at the request of the Vatican" (page. 36)
See here dear reader, how the powerful ,,Jesus of the West" have amalgamated the spiritual and secular powers to weaken the Aramean people of Mesopotamia under the cover of ,,unity". This kind of unholy ,,evangelism" has been misused by ,,Jesus of the West" to plant his ideology of ,,dividing and ruling" in the Middle-East resulting in great consequences for the Aramean nation.
A person who still seems to continue with the war of the Catholic church is professor Herman Teule of the Catholic University of Nijmegen with his ridiculous usage of the terms like "Monophysite", a fake term invented by the apostate Western Christianity, to torment and taunt the Eastern Orthodox and the Syrian Orthodox Church (These Churches always have recognized the two natures of Christ, namely: Perfect God and Perfect Man).
The apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians", do not hesitate to use all means possible to spread this lie-name and falsify the history of our people. Yes, they even went for the path of terrorism to advertise this criminal lie-name. More about this:
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Monstrous_Alliance_PKK_ADO_24_4_1993.htm
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/The_Primitive_dangerous_ADO_ideology_16_9_2008.htm
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Sweden_Aramean_Genocide_5_1_2008.htm
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Aramean_Fuat_Deniz_Slaughtered_By_Cousin_13_2_2008.htm
A big asset in the hands of their Western masters to dishonour and torment the Aramean nation is Mr. Sabri Atman. As we will show, Atman uses the Aramean physical genocide with all possible means to commit a spiritual genocide by glorifying the false name "Assyrians". In this genocide war against our people, Atman gets support from his Western masters and spiritual Creators.
Before we proceed, we first have to answer this questions, namely: What is genocide?
Genocide can be categorized as: Physical and Spiritual genocide. Physical genocide means extermination by killing a nation. Mr. Atman presents himself as a specialist on the physical genocide, while committing spiritual genocide.
Spiritual genocide is implementation of division and hatred, inciting family against family, daughter against mother, son against father, village against village, weakening of a nation, extermination of their cultural heritage by diffusion of fake identities, introduction of fanatical nationalism based on fake identities, division of spiritual institutions, bribery and brainwashing of their leaders to weaken them, distortion of their history and identity ..etc... etc...
The Turks and Kurds have committed physical genocide, while the spiritual genocide was committed by the Western diplomats and missionaries. And this spiritual genocide is today being continued undiminished and with all possible efforts by Mr. Atman, by misusing the Aramean physical genocide, to advertise the criminal Western invention and fake name "Assyrians" in reference to our people, exactly as his Western masters and creators had in mind to do so.
So, the question is then of course: What is the reason Mr. Atman so eager to talk about genocide? What is the agenda behind this genocide issue? And what does Mr. Atman want to achieve with this? Is the goal really recognizing the Aramean genocide committed by the Turks and Kurds? If so, why then he is calling it "Assyrian" genocide? One thing is very obvious and that is: Mr. Atman is taking every opportunity and is utterly exploiting every possibility to advertise the immoral, objectionable and already besmirched with blood and terrorism western spiritual colonial product "Assyrians" - a product invented by the Western masters of Mr. Atman to culturally exterminate the Aramean nation. But of course Mr. Atman is using various methods and tricks to carefully camouflage and hide his real intentions and fool the poor and unsuspecting people. Later on, this will be explained thoroughly.
In the presence of elderly people and on television, Mr. Atman very smartly speaks of "Syrian Genocide" (= Suryoye Seyfo). However, when he is in contact with foreigners, for example members of the European Parliament, he tries by all means possible to present the Aramean nation with the fake name "Assyrians".
As a Human Rights Organisation we consider this as a fraud, manipulation, deception and spiritual genocide. Basically, this is nothing but a big spit and the face of our people and a evidence of disrespect.
Do not be misled dear reader, when Mr. Atman is using the word "Syrian", he automatically mean "Assyrian", because we think Atman is following the criminal ideology of the terrorist organisation ADO which is following the Lost-A trick (Also this will be explained)
In addition, Mr. Sabri Atman is eager to present himself as a "expert" and is doing his best everywhere to talk about genocide. He comes with pleasure to talk about genocide and the great injustice done to the Aramean people which he falsely is calling "Assyrian" people or "Syrian" people in order to fool the nation.
What many blinds and fools are not aware of is that Mr. Atman, likewise many others, is doing nothing but misusing the Aramean physical genocide to spread and advertise the Western spiritual colonial slavery product "Assyrians". And with that Mr. Atman is committing spiritual /cultural genocide against the Aramean nation which is much worse than the physical genocide.
Please be informed of the following: At the moment that people like Sabri Atman became aware that their real intentions are being unmasked, they will start with a terrible campaign to ridicule you, to attack you and to come up with gamut of absurd accusations, like for example "you work for the Turks", "you are Hizb-Allah", "you are fundamentalist", "you are intolerant". etc.. etc..
This is typical the trademark of the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians" to put others in bad light. Woe betide you, if you dare to unmask the involvement of the terrorist "Assyrians" with terrorism. Because they will start their hate-machine and ridicule you like "you are dividing our people", "you work for the enemy", "you hate Assyrians", "you should not judge people", etc.. etc..
We will present our analysis as follows:
1. Sabri Atman and the Aramean youth in Germany- Aram Hezbollah- Binladen
2. Sabri Atman in Belgium on 9-2-2007. On the quarrel in Belgium with bishop Hazael Somi: Interview on 9-3-2007 and on 11-3-2007.
3. Sabri Atman and Mor Quraqos church in Enschede.
4. Interview Sabri Atman on SuryoyoSat: 10-4-2008
5. The biggest victims of Atman
6. Appeal to Sabri Atman
7. General message for the "Assyrian" terrorists.
1. Sabri Atman and the Aramean Youth in Germany- Aram Hezbollah- Binladen
In 2006 Sabri Atman gave a talk in Giessen in Germany on Genocide. During this talk the Aramean youth confronted Mr. Atman with his behavior to "Assyrianize" the Aramean nation.
After this discussion in Germany, the Aramean youth started to publish statements on the Suryoyo Online Forum in which they accused Mr. Atman of being a wolf in sheep's clothing. Sabri Atman became furious and started, in consultation with the apostate Aramean who call themselves "Assyrians", a hate campaign against the Suryoyo Online and the webmaster, Mr. Gabriel Rabo. This repugnant campaign was not only aimed at Mr. Rabo and Suryoyo Online, but also utterly criminalized the Aramean nation. On various forums of the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians", extremely offensive and hateful contributions, under fake names, were published in which Mr. Rabo was depicted as "spy for the Turks", "Urenke Gobel" and much more of such-like objectionable, hateful and extremely dirty allegations; exactly in agreement with the heinous "Assyrianists" ideology. This campaign was conducted amongst others on the forums of the "Assyrian" Association Betnahrin in Germany, where the Assyrian terrorism took root, and the Dutch ADO association "Assyrische Mesopotamische Verenging Enschede".
The apostate Aramean who call themselves "Assyrians" are so fanatical and obsessed by the product of their Western fake Christian masters that they had no problem to coin a covenant with the PKK with the main goal to promote this immoral colonial lie-name "Assyrians" and to exterminate the Aramean culture. Really, from such people you may expect everything; the goal seems to justify the means; even so much so to sacrifice boys and girls.
1.1. The Deep and Hidden Hatred of Sabri Atman towards the Aramean People
The first hate generating letter of Sabri Atman to Gabriel Rabo of Suryoyo Online (26-6-2006)
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Letter_Sabri_Atman_To_Suryoyo_Online_26_6_2006.htm
As previously mentioned Sabri Atman and his friends, including in Germany and elsewhere, started a repugnant, tasteless and objectionable hate campaign not only against the person of Mr. Gabriel Rabo in particular, but also against the Aramean nation in general. This awfully hatred was organised amongst others in the "Assyrische Mesopotamien Verein in Augusburg" and also the "Assyrische Mesopotamische ADO Verenging" contributed to this hateful propaganda.
What you should know, dear reader, is that it was in de association "Bethnahrin in Augusburg in Germany", that the Assyrian terrorism took shape, for it was in this very association that in 1993 a delegation of ADO was composed under leadership of Numan Ugur, a Christian and the second man of PKK, to seal an monstrous covenant with the leader of PKK Mr. Ocalan in Syria. More about the "Assyrian" terrorism, their lies, manipulations, fraud and distortions, please read the following analysis:
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Monstrous_Alliance_PKK_ADO_24_4_1993.htm
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/The_Primitive_dangerous_ADO_ideology_16_9_2008.htm
The hate campaign most probably was organised in consultation with Sabri Atman from this and other "Assyrian" associations. It was amongst others on the website of this associations where hideous and nasty statements, under fake names, were spread on the Webmaster of Suryoyo Online. It was also on the website of this association that a hideous and a criminal hate campaign was started against the person of Professor. Dr. Muhammad Shamsaddin
(http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Insults_Assyrian_Terrorists_27_6_2007.htm)
On 26-6-2006 Sabri Atman sent the first letter to the Webmaster of Suryoyo Online and was spread on the website of the "Assyrische Verein" in Augusburg in Germany and is still on their website (see the link above).
We translated the letter into English with the left column the original German text and the right column the translated English Text. Below we will drop few comments to the letter of Mr. Sabri Atman in which he not only attacks Mr. Gabriel Rabo but also ridicules the Aramean nation. And with that indeed Mr. Atman seems to be pleasing his Western masters.
.......Do not you understand that with this kind of information policy, you only promote hostility between us?.......
Exactly Mr. Atman and same question can also be asked to you. Your propaganda for many years to advertise the unholy western spiritual colonial product "Assyrian", does certainly not contribute to the unity within our nation. On the contrary, the awful and criminal ideology has become the epicenter of terrorism, fraud, hatred, lies, distortions, treachery and spiritual cultural extermination of our nation.
........The difference between people who are constantly busy, to insult their people and spread untruth about them, are to my opinion in agreement with the philosophy which is very precisely being adhered by Taliban respectively Hisbollah......
With this quote Mr. Atman seem precisely to describe himself and his friends. Otherwise, why would be wrong and a insult to unmask and denounce the disgusting criminal colonial product "Assyrians"? How about the horrible raping of the girls and killings of the boys in northern Iraq for the sake of the objectionable "Assyrian" ideology? Families were torn up, people were incited against each other, hatred and division has been created. All this just normal, nothing to say about it? And all this just remove it from the table and forget about it by demonizing people who condemn these practises and labelling them as "Taliban" and "Hisbollah?"
And is unmasking and unambiguous denouncing of this hideous crimes to be labeled as "to insult their people and spread untruth about them"?
......Do not they have anything else to do than keeping themselves with the Assyrians and constantly discrediting them?
Again the same question can be asked to you and your hateful friends concerning your horrendous contempt towards the Aramean nation, exactly in the line of your Western masters, the colonial criminals. With your zealous efforts, you seem to succeed in their colonial urge of extermination. Below we will explain what we mean.
One of the organisations which more than thirty years have been working with the "Assyrian" organisations is the Geselshaft fuer Bedrohte Volker in Germany. Regarding this cooperation, they say, " Today we consider it as absurd that the Assyrian Organizations with their nationalism exert the major part of their struggle against the majority of their "Aramean" people in German and the rest of Europe and this struggle comprises the major part of their activities"
Well then Mr. Atman, before attacking the Aramean organizations, please first learn much better yourself. Enjoy the link: http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Threatened_People_Wake_UP_25_10_2007.htm
..........Until now, I have certainly met very decent and respectable persons who present themselves as "Arameans". .......
Very interesting indeed! We don't know who these people are, as far as they consider themselves "Arameans", and sit down together with you on the table, we believe we are dealing here with people who probably have the following characteristics:
1. Whether they are imbeciles and are unaware of your crusades by order of your western colonial masters against the Aramean nation, this will be later explained why.
2. Whether we are dealing here with people who cannot think normal,
3. And last we believe we are dealing with extremely low moral bandits whom you describe as ".......very decent and respectable persons ......."
........These include, in any case neither you nor a few other people who are constantly insulting and make themselves partner in slanderous discussions concerning Assyrian thinking people......
Unmasking terrorism, fraud, history distortion and denouncing raping of girls and killing of boys, you may indeed qualify as ".. insulting and slanderous discussions.....", however with that we believe Mr. Atman, it says something about your standards and values.
According to our analysis and insights, it is a act of crime to cheat your people, your own flesh and blood and go after a mythical "Assyrian" ideology which is not yours. It is something which has been implanted and taught by others. "Assyrian thinking" people? It is a joke, they do not exist. We are dealing here with nothing but the Western colonial immoral perversity which they brought to the Middle-East and brainwashed a part of our nation. You just continue this spiritual colonialism!
On the other hand, it is very smart of Mr. Atman to reduce this issue of the Western colonial immorality in the Middle-East to "views", "beliefs" and "opinions". Perhaps that is why his Western master gave him access to various buildings and support him.
.........The Taliban and Hezbollah have assumed Mohammed as a weapon and terrorize the whole world.......
And you have assumed the "Assyrian" ideology, invented by your Western colonial masters, and are using it against your own people, the Aramean people whom you are taunting and dishonouring under supervision of your masters and spiritual creators.
In addition to this, you seem very well to be familiar with Hisbollah and Taliban. How is this possible? Are you perhaps in love with those ideologies with which you try to discredit others?
...................Do not you feel that your approach have a lot in common with the two terror groups?...............
The same question again can be asked to you. It were the "Assyrian" terrorists who made a covenant with the PKK and most probably you were aware of that. The "Assyrian" terrorists have recruited boys and killed them in northern Iraq and raped girls who were recruited. All this can be justified to advertise the criminal immoral "Assyrian" ideology? And everyone who says something about it and unambiguous condemns it and warns people, is according to you "Taliban" and "Hisbollah", because with that he is "insulting" the "Assyrians"? So, please go with your questions to the "Assyrian" terrorists. We have nothing to do with these ideologies.
..........Do not you use Jesus as a weapon to promote backwardness and hostility within your own people?.......
Very interesting indeed. Is Jesus equal, in the perception to Mr. Atman, to "backwardness" and "hostility"? Probably the most fanatical Jesus-haters would not dare to state such a bold statement. Probably even "Taliban" and "Hisbolloh" would not dare to speak in this way about Jesus.
Therefore, what does our Lord Jesus Christ has to do with this Mr. Atman? Why do you involve Jesus? Do you want to say that the teaching of Jesus is backward as the teaching of Taliban and Hisbollah? How can you use Jesus to promote "backwardness" and "hostility?"
Or do we have to believe that your inner hatred towards the Aramean people is becoming so deep and abominable that you are doing everything to crack them down, including besmirching the name of our Lord? Could this perhaps be a indication for your deep hatred towards our Lord? Has Christ Jesus became such an obstacle in your life?
Atman efendi, nevertheless we will bring to your attention some statements of our Lord Jesus Christ to try to describe your mentality.
Jesus says in Matthew 12:30, "Anyone who is not for me is really against me; anyone who does not help me gather is really scattering"
If Jesus would be now on earth and in your presence would have made this statement, most probably you would than have cracked Him down and ran him into the ground and portrayed him as "fanatic", "extremist", "undemocratic", "having no respect for others", "creating division", "intolerant", "who is this guy to say such hateful statements?", "Hisbollah" and "Taliban".
Below we are going to confront you with more statements of our Lord Jesus. In Revelation 22:11 Jesus says, "Whoever is evil must go on doing evil, and whoever is filthy must go on being filthy; whoever is good must go on doing good, and whoever is holy must go on being holy."
Also this statement of Jesus probably would be immediately denounced by you in terms like, "Who is this guy who says something like this?", "All people are brothers, why making such extreme statements?", "We all are equal, why does this fanatic tries to drive to extreme by dividing them in good and evil?" etc.. etc..
The fact that Mr. Atman links Jesus to "backwardness" and "hatred", which is obviously tantamount to that, we believe this could be a indication of his deep, hidden aversion of Jesus Christ of the Bible.
One thing you can be 100% sure about it and that is this: If our people indeed were following Christ Jesus, there would be worldwide no place for Mr. Atman within our nation. Because the Bible says, "And Christ himself is the means by which our sins are forgiven, and not our sins only, but also the sins of everyone. If we obey God's commands, then we are sure that we know him. If someone says that he knows him, but does not obey his commands, such a person is a liar and there is no truth in him. But whoever obeys his word is the one whose love for God has really been made perfect. This is how we can be sure that we are in union with God: whoever says that he remains in union with God should live just as Jesus Christ did" (1 John 2:2-6)
The fact that you and your friends get access to some of our churches and monasteries, is a strong indication to us that we are dealing here with a people who is rotten to their core and has became utterly immoral that they have rejected totally Jesus Christ and with that they have prepared themselves for a horrifying judgment of the Lord God (Oh no Mr. Atman, spare your efforts and tell your friends: We are not working for the Turks or whomever, but we are slaves of Christ Jesus of the Bible. And probably that is one of the reasons why our organization is being demonized by the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians")
....................Why do not these people change the name of their movement in Hisboll - Aram?
What is going on in your spirit to link the Arameans, who denounce "Assyrainizm", to Hisbollah? Has your hatred for the Arameans become so huge? We are going to explain to you in detail why we do not change the name of our organizations in Hisboll-Aram. Contrary to the criminal and wicked colonial spiritual product "Assyrians" - the product of the Western immorality and perversity in the Middle-East - which you advertise and defend with all possible means, we, the Aramean organizations have no experience with:
- Terrorism
- Recruitment of boys and girls for the PKK to fight in northern Iraq.
- Raping girls and killing boys
-Division within families, including inciting men and women against one another, children against their parents, family against family etc.. etc..
- Spreading of lies, manipulations, distortions and history falsifications etc.. etc..
We have nothing to do with all this filthiness, all this literally have been fulfilled in the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians" and got involved with terrorism. The fact that you are using the term "Taliban" and "Hisbollah" to ridicule the Aramean nation forms a strong indication to us that most probably you are practicing this horrible and objectionable ideologies which you try to project on others. In addition, we again wish to refresh your memory that it was in the "Assyrische" Verein in Augusburg, from which you probably organized your propaganda, where the "Assyrian" terrorism took root. However, this probably does not bother you.
Well then, could it be possible that in this kind of "Assyrian" associations the ideology of "Hisbollah" and "Taliban" is being practiced and taught? And could that be perhaps the reason why they have been involved with terrorism? And does this explain for a important part the lies, the manipulations, recruitment and other objectionable and unholy matters where the Western spiritual colonial lie-product "Assyrians" decorate themselves with?
And forgive us Mr. Atman, however could it be that in your subconscious you recognize something of yourself in these ideologies which you try to project on the Aramean organizations to besmirch them?
1.2. Gabriel Rabo Answers Sabri Atman.
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Answer_Gabriel_Rabo_Letter_Sabri_Atman_26_6_2006.htm
After Mr. Rabo received the offensive letter of Sabri Atman, he responded to the letter of Atman.
In his answer to Atman we read amongst others:
You have because of your attitude and efforts in spreading publicly the false name "Assyrian" for the Aramean people - made yourself in our society unpopular.
With this propaganda and the manipulation of our history, you stimulate hostility and hatred among the Arameans (Suryoye).
I must, unfortunately, assess in your letter that you compare us Arameans with Taliban and Hezbollah - with terrorist organizations - and describe some of us as disrespectful.
You claim that we use Jesus as a weapon to promote backwardness and hostility within our nation.
You urge the Arameans, with your question, to change the name of their "Movement" in Hisboll- Aram" with a reference to Hisbollah, although this is undeserved and totally absurd.
The Answer of Mr. Rabo to Atman speaks for itself. Please read the complete letter.
1.3. Sabri Atman becomes furious: The "Assyrian" terrorists in Germany and elsewhere start a horrible and demonic hate campaign against Mr. Gabriel Rabo and the Aramean people.
As we said at the beginning, when the real face of the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians" of which some of them even got involved with the terrorism, being unmasked, they start a unimaginable hate campaign. On the forum of the "Assyrische" Verein in Augsburg in Germany, most probably in close consultation with Sabri Atman, a horrible hateful statements, under secret names, were published on the person of Mr. Rabo. Not only in Germany but also on the Forum of the Mesopotamische Association in Holland, which is also a ADO association, the hateful propaganda was conducted against the person of Mr. Rabo.
Mr. Rabo was depicted by the "Assyrian" terrorists as "Urenke Goebels", "Working for the Turks", etc.. etc.., typical trademark of the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians" to crack down everyone who do not want to become their doormat.
When Mr. Atman received the response to his letter, on one side he became furious, on the other side he tried to create the impression as if he did not want to bring the Aramean organisations in relation with Taliban and Hezbollah. However, he himself unmasked his real face, so whatever he tries to do, it will not hide his real intentions.
Few comments on the letter of Atman.
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Letter_Sabri_Atman_Suryoyo_Online_13_7_2007.htm
.....................Also, you have surely took note of his answer in which every sentence reflects violation of the rules.
No Mr. Atman, your real face and behaviour towards the Aramean people and organisations has been unmasked and denounced in the letter of Mr. Rabo. This is something quite different, isn't it?
........One should know this: the answer I received from him was far from what decent and respectable people would write.
Very interesting! Look here who is talking about "respect" and "decentness". What should Mr. Rabo have had written in his letter to be qualified by you as "decent" and "respectful"? To approve the killing of the recruited boys and raping of girls in northern Iraq for the sake of the criminal immoral Western colonial "Assyrian" ideology? That it is okay to approve the immoral colonial product of Western masters and to denounce the Aramean heritage of our people? When people reject and denounce the Western immorality and their inner urge to exterminate other nations, are they "indecent" and "improper"?
..........Because the answer I received was from the beginning to the end based on untruths and allegations............
Please let the independent reader decide who is spreading lies, hatred and demonism and who is working in all purity for the Aramean nation.
........Secondly, instead of apologizing, he writes the following: "You have, because of your attitude and efforts by spreading publicly the false name" Assyrian " for the Aramean people - made yourself in our society unpopular. Therefore you need to accept criticism. "
Exactly Mr. Atman and you are busy with this propaganda for many years. We know very well that you are not interested in Genocide, oh no, what is for you in stake is to spread the criminal colonial spiritual product "Assyrians" of your Western masters and that is exactly the reason they help and give you access to various places in order to advertise this unholy immoral invention.
.........I must conclude that decent people, who have sense of responsibility, dot not act in this way......
What should "decent" people do according to Mr. Atman? To approve "Assyrian" terrorism? Is this what he means by "decent" people?
Under the caption " Jihad - The ideology of the Taliban" Mr. Atman is making some strange statement, to say the least.
....... I must make it clear that I, in no way have equated the Aramaean organizations or even those who describe themselves as Arameans, with Taliban or Hezbollah.........
Too late, Mr. Atman clearly showed his hateful face towards the Aramean nation and organizations.
..............On the contrary: I have many esteemed friends, who call themselves Arameans, I know Aramean organizations who do good work.......
Those who identify themselves as "Arameans" and are good friends of Mr. Atman, we believe they have the following characteristics:
1. Whether they are very stupid and have a level of cleverness comparable to chimpanzee and therefore are not aware of anything,
2. Whether, they do not care about standards and values,
3. They are so lukewarm that they do not care about their Aramean identity.
4. No one, really no one, whether a privet person or a organization who do care about their Aramean heritage will accept your attempts of cultural distortion. Out of the question.
Atman explains Jihad-ideology.
........Do not certain persons with this mentality fill several websites with jihad-like witch hunt and slander against Assyrians?
Let we now propose the following Mr. Atman. Please let the reader read the following documents in detail:
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Monstrous_Alliance_PKK_ADO_24_4_1993.htm
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Article_Zaman_16_11_2006.htm
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/The_Primitive_dangerous_ADO_ideology_16_9_2008.htm
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Assyria_Syria_John_Joseph_5_7_2008.htm
Is this terrorism, fraud, lies, manipulations or is this the Jihad-ideology your are talking about? Let the reader decide!
Is it not shameful that such views are there to read?
Is there too much distinction between your inflammatory writings and calls to Jihad of Taliban?
Do you still live in the Middle Ages?
Is the university of Gottingen as a institution of science and education, that you are using it for your website to facilitate the division of our people, riots and misguiding of the youth?
Exactly Mr. Atman! With all these remarks and questions you should go to the "Assyrian" terrorist organizations who made a covenant with the PKK and scarified boys and girls for the sake of the criminal "Assyrian" ideology. Mr. Ocalan himself says, " We shall change history". And do not you in a deeper sense follow the script laid down by the two terrorist organizations to "Assyrianize" the Aramean people? In other words, the Arameans have nothing to do with your remarks because they keep terrorism on a far distance, please address all these remarks to those who glorify the objectionable Western spiritual colonial invention "Assyrians" and made a covenant with the PKK.
Atman explains Taliban mentality.
As it is known, the Taliban were enemies of people who just thought differently than them.
Worse: They did not allow the people with different view the right to life.
They forced (onto others) their fanatical faith and their world views.
Consequently, there is but only one truth for them and even on these, they had the monopoly.
They did not hesitate to declare regularly Jihad against people of other faiths and living ideas
Their greatest weapon was the faith and religious feelings of the people
They do not hesitate to abuse this religiousness
That is what we mean the Taliban mentality
Well then, Mr. Atman, you love to talk in detail about Taliban and Jihad ideology in such a way that you give us the feeling as if you are one of them and daily do practise this ideology.
This ideology is unknown to the Arameans, therefore they keep far away from terrorism. For this reason, you are at the wrong address with your explanation. We suggest you, as a expert on Taliban, Hisbollah and Jihad, in the first place to educate yourselves to stop with your spiritual crusade to "Assyrianize" the Aramean nation, and secondly you should go with your remarks to those who keep themselves busy with terrorism and recruitment, namely the terrorist "Assyrians" who made a covenant with the PKK. We have nothing to do with this ideology as explained by you in detail. Perhaps you can use your "expertise" to advice the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan how adequately to deal with this ideologies.
......Despite the self-designation such as: Arameans, Chaldeans, Syrians, Suroye, Suryoye, Assyrians etc.., all of them concern people from our community. We will work for the unity of our people.....
Well, well, well, very smart of Mr. Atman how he tries to cover the crimes of his Western spiritual creators. All these terms in reference to our people are needless, they all came into being because of the criminal colonial activities of your Western masters among our nation. All of them are Arameans and nothing else.
This has nothing to do with "tolerance" or "different views", but has to do with the denouncement of the activities of the criminal Jesus of the West. Therefore, please do not trivialize the matter by reducing it to "names", because that is not the issue here. What is at the stake, are the crimes of the fake Western Christian activities against our nation which you with all happiness seems to maintain.
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Picture: Urhoy, today’s Urfa (SE Turkey), Edessa of Osrhoene for the Romans: a diachronic center of Aramaean Civilization and Oriental Christianity
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